Reposting cause mods didn’t let me know title needed to be changed from less charged title DNC Delegate Attacked for Gaza Protest Banner Supports Harris

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    Smacking a muslim woman protesting a genocide on the head with a WE LOVE JOE sign is a very specific type of irony.

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      Yes. For anyone who can’t access the article:

      “They hit us on the head with ‘We Love Joe’ signs,” said Nadia Ahmad, a Florida delegate who snuck the sign into the convention under her clothing. Illinois Gov. “JB Pritzker was close by and they did nothing. Even the ushers did nothing. They just let other people hit us and grab the sign away from us.”

      The sign they had is explained here:

      On Monday, during President Joe Biden’s address to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, a Harris delegate was one of several members of the Florida delegation who unfurled a banner that read “Stop Arming Israel.” Other members of the Florida delegation stood up to block the banner, while some in the section and another section behind the protesters started hitting the banner and the people holding it with their own signs.

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    I think it’s really funny that there are 15 comments about titling a post and 0 comments about the ethnically motivated political violence

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      Because it’s easier to do that then admit anything bad about how dnc/dems are handling the Gaza situation

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          Democrats Attacked a Muslim Woman for Protesting Biden’s Speech. She’s a Harris Delegate.

          It’s not just “Uncommitted” activists who are pressuring Kamala Harris on Gaza policy. Her own delegates are speaking out.

          Criticisms of the Biden administration’s policy toward Israel are not only coming from uncommitted delegates. They’re also coming from people trying to get Vice President Kamala Harris elected.

          On Monday, during President Joe Biden’s address to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, a Harris delegate was one of several members of the Florida delegation who unfurled a banner that read “Stop Arming Israel.” Other members of the Florida delegation stood up to block the banner, while some in the section and another section behind the protesters started hitting the banner and the people holding it with their own signs.

          “They hit us on the head with ‘We Love Joe’ signs,” said Nadia Ahmad, a Florida delegate who snuck the sign into the convention under her clothing. Illinois Gov. “JB Pritzker was close by and they did nothing. Even the ushers did nothing. They just let other people hit us and grab the sign away from us.”

          Ahmad said the box behind her, where people were seen leaning over to hit her and the banner, was designated for the Laborers’ International Union of North America. (Spokespersons for the labor union, Pritzker, and the DNC did not immediately respond to requests for comment.)

          Though mainstream Democrats have derided pro-Palestine demonstrators as outsiders who would hurt Democrats’ chances, Ahmad is a Muslim delegate from Florida who is committed to Harris. She is not part of the “Uncommitted” movement.

          The Uncommitted movement says it has organized at least 200 total delegates to sign a pledge pushing the administration to secure a permanent ceasefire in Gaza. Only 30 of the pledge signatories, however, are uncommitted. Most of them, like Ahmad, are avowed Harris supporters.

          “We’ve had very tough conversations, but for me it’s important that we continue to show up,” said DNC political director Brencia Berry. Prior to her current position, Berry was the DNC director of coalitions and community engagement, during which she worked closely with Ahmad and other community leaders.

          Berry’s job has been to make sure she shares messages from delegates and voters with party leaders. And Harris, she said, has spoken directly to the crisis in Gaza and its effects.

          “There have been times where might not agree on tactics,” she said of Democrats. “I think that we all agree on the humanitarian crisis that is happening in Gaza right now.”

          “Solidarity From Delegates”

          The fact that Democrats physically attacked another member of the party who is pushing to elect Harris shows just how far members of the party will go to shut down debate on Israel policy, said Minneapolis City Council member and uncommitted delegate Jeremiah Ellison.

          “We cannot be a party that adopts these tactics of silencing dissent,” he said.

          Building solidarity with Harris delegates is a specific goal of Uncommitted, Ellison said.

          “A big part of Uncommitted is to build solidarity with Harris delegates,” he said. “I don’t think we can prevail without that solidarity. And even though there’s not always coordination between what we’re doing and what other people might be doing to get the message out there, nothing about what we’re doing is in competition with or invalidates other strategies.”

          Ellison and Uncommitted delegates are discussing with other delegates what it would take to move them from uncommitted to committed for Harris, he said: “We’re finding a lot of solidarity from delegates.”

          Some of the crackdown on dissent from within the party comes from donors and leadership, Ellison said, but many rank-and-file delegates supported the discussions. “The Party leadership doesn’t need to be so nervous about having this conversation because their base doesn’t seem to be nervous about having this conversation,” he said.

          As far as the efforts to silence Ahmad and others who unfurled the protest banner last night, Ellison said he wants accountability from the Democratic Party.

          “We can be a big tent, we can have tough conversations. And we can disagree without resorting to assaulting one another or being harshly toxic toward one another, ” he said. “I do expect the party to address it, and to not give permission to it.”

          Asked about Ahmad’s treatment on Monday night, Berry, the DNC political director, said the party unequivocally condemns physical violence.

          “It’s unacceptable,” she said. “We as a party, our values are of diversity of thought and opinion. We never condone any type of physical attacks on anybody for any reason.”

          Who Gets Heard

          During a press conference on Tuesday morning, American Near East Refugee Aid board member Rebecca Abou Chedid said that the Democratic Party has long worked to silence debate on Israel policy.

          “For decades, there has been a coordinated effort to shut down any debate within the Democratic Party and within our country about those policies, and about the wisdom of those policies,” she said.

          “We’ve seen it the last few weeks with the two most expensive primaries in our country’s history to take down Congressman Jamaal Bowman and Congresswoman Cori Bush because they dared to call for a ceasefire, because they dared to speak for the humanity of the Palestinian people,” Abou Chedid said, referring to Democratic primaries in New York and Missouri, respectively, where millions of dollars from pro-Israel groups helped take down progressive incumbents. “And we have seen very little pushback from within the Democratic Party that two young and vital members of the Congressional Black Caucus have been taken out for this reason.”

          That silencing has been targeted against Arab and Muslim Americans, Abou Chedid said. Monday’s panel held by the Uncommitted movement marked the first time the DNC ever held a panel on Palestinian human rights.

          “It was the first time that Palestinian voices were part of the actual convention speaker list. But they’re not on the main stage, they’re not on primetime,” she said. “That panel was important, but it doesn’t change the fact that the bombs are still falling in Gaza every single day.”

          Berry, the DNC political director, said the party was actively pursuing Muslim and Arab votes: “We’re not taking the Muslim or Arab vote for granted this cycle.”

          Israel is not the only topic the party has tried to quash debate on, said Michigan superdelegate Liano Sharon, a Jewish Democrat who helped Ahmad unfurl the protest banner. Democrats have also shut down the discussion on universal health care, which is connected to the destruction in Gaza, he said.

          “They try to shut down dissent on things that affect real people’s lives,” he said, “when those things come into conflict with the desires of the donors.”

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    Reposting cause mods didn’t let me know title needed to be changed

    Posters are expected to read the rules; hence no warning, just removal.

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      Keep in mind that matching the headline and pasting a link is often a real drag when posting from some mobile apps:

      • open article in browser app
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      There’s a fifty fifty chance that when you switch back to the Lemmy mobile app, the OS will have “flushed” the current app state to save memory and you’ll be back at the main feed having lost your post. Depends on the app, device, how long you took to switch back, and amount of available memory.

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      4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

      Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.

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        Still. All you had to do was repost; complying with the rule you broke, that was pointed out to you via the removal message. It’s not like you were punished for it.

        You chose to draw further attention to your rule breaking. Mods aren’t babysitters; they’re volunteers with limited time and lots of work to do.

        Also; I’ve never seen an [active] automod on Lemmy, and given the pinned post about the other bot(s), they don’t seem to be working as intended/very well. Not all that surprised it didn’t notify you.

        • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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          There was no messages.

          My point is to draw attention to that and the fact they aren’t even following their own rules for situations like this

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            Once again:

            It’s right there in the mod log. As lemmy doesn’t notify users of mod actions; it’s your job to go look at it when you notice your post/comment was removed.

            I agree that part of the software should be improved, but that’s where we’re at now. Gotta work with what you have.

            My point is to draw attention to… …the fact they aren’t even following their own rules for situations like this

            Then you should have made a [meta] post talking about it and requesting change; not added passive aggressive notes to an otherwise unrelated news article.

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              not added passive aggressive notes to an otherwise unrelated news article.

              I don’t think it’s passive aggressive.

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                As lemmy doesn’t notify users of mod actions; it’s your job to go look at it when you notice your post/comment was removed.

                I agree that part of the software should be improved, but that’s where we’re at now. Gotta work with what you have.


                Whining about this under a random news article isn’t going to change things. This topic should have been a separate, constructive, post; now this whole comment section and the pile of downvotes is all about you, and the news that was shared has been completely overshadowed because of it.

                Get over it and move on; or find a more constructive method of communication.

                I won’t reply further.

                • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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                  Their own rule says they will notify you.

                  It’s not like you’ve brought anything constructive into this thread so good day

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      More me trusting syncs normally fine auto title. *and rules say automod will notify before removing *

      • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        It is the case that, at precisely the same time, both “rules are important and you’re ignorant of them” and “rules don’t matter stop whining” are true.

        Humans love creating lose-lose situations. That’s why humans are such an evidently self-limiting species. “Hey, poor people, I’m going to profit from exploiting natural resources, dooming the future of your children!” And then the poor people point out that, in fact, the rich business owners has descendants, also. “Oh no!”