Instead of the single-use paper or plastic cups that Gearhard would usually line up for the barista slinging espresso, he’s passing over shiny new reusable cups that bear the slogan “Sip, Return, Repeat”. Customers who need their lattes to go can take the purple cups with them, then return them to one of 60 bins scattered across downtown Petaluma when they’ve finished. Each cup comes with a trackable QR code to help monitor results.

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      This was how all glass bottles used to work during most of the 20th century.

      I mean, good for them, but returnable packaging isn’t that crazy of an idea. It’s not surprising that someone came up with “hey give us back the thing instead of trashing it and we’ll use it again” before the year we figured out talking computers.

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        Generally the whole of Germany has the Pfand system, where you pay a 25¢ deposit when you buy a bottle that you get back once you return it.

        Tuebingen did their re-usable cups and bowl stuff to tackle trash from one time packaging like burgers, paper cups and so on. The city imposed a tax on the one time stuff that then “soft-forced” people to adopt the returnable packaging.

        Honestly, it’s not much different to the refillable water bottles people carry around. Now people hand over their boxes to the Dönermann to get their Dönerbox.

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          I worked for a glass bottle company for 8 years. Glass used to be a lot thicker, and returnable bottles were designed exactly for repeat uses. But for cost savings, lightweight single use bottles came into play especially as technology improved to blow the glass with more even thickness. Less weight equals more bottles on a truck from the glass manufacturer to the filler, from the filler to the distributor, from the distributor to the grocery stores.

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    The reusable cups are plastic. Can plastic be sanitised as well as glass? We know that glass can be used in such schemes as it used to be in the past.

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        Using a thin walled metal cup would be super hot and burn people. But using an insulated metal cup would get people to keep them. Idk how to solve that. Make something safe but worthless enough to return.

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          Ask people to bring their own washed cup with the appropriate capacity. If they don’t have one, provide them with a reusable cup they have to pay extra for.
          You have to make people pay to overcome the path of least effort that single use plastics opened.
          Just like paid plastic bags in supermarkets, I believe it works well.

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          I suspect that making metal insulated cups is cheap these days. Perhaps this could solve that. I doubt people would hoard mountains of them. Then it becomes a matter of paying for the hoarded ones. People hoarded and still do some glass bottles where glass bottle replacement schemes exist/have existed.

          Thinking more on this point, a genuine replacement for single use plastics for beverages could be a soda can equivalent, cheap, double wall aluminum container. If someone can make such a container for low enough cost, that could be a solution since aluminum is infinitely recyclable.

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        Most people stop for coffee on their way somewhere. They don’t want to be carrying a cup around all day.

        Takeout cups should be environmentally friendly, or not offered at all. If you can’t make it green, make time to sit down for your coffee (or put up with your own travel mug).

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    The shops aren’t having to clean the cups themselves – they’re washed by an outside logistics company – meaning there’s one less thing for businesses to factor in as they make the switch.

    This is an important detail that I think was very clever to include in the program. Reduce the friction to gain buy-in.