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- ontario@lemmy.ca
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Fuck you ford.
Saying there will be no more of attempts to take away the rooms?
Tables the laws.
So no more attempts at banning these?
RIP malls
All bars banned?
As part of its plan to ban supervised consumption sites and close 10 of those operating in Ontario, the province has announced the creation of 19 intensive addiction recovery facilities, named HART Hubs.
A $378-million budget has been allocated to create the new spaces, which will combine addiction recovery with highly supportive housing units. The program should lead to 375 “highly supportive” housing units as part of the hub model.
That doesn’t sound bad, actually.
I’d bet that the contract to build these happens to be someone owed a favor.
That is promising, though it would be a good next step to the consumption sites rather than a replacement for them.
The consumption sites would be good first points of contact so users could be provided the treatment centre information.
Except that the minister was on CBC yesterday, and made it clear that they’re following Alberta’s lead of forced treatment.
You don’t go to these to get clean, you get sent there by the police.
I believe in previous threads on the subject, it was identified that forced rehab doesn’t work. I’m too lazy to go find the threads FYI
It may not for some, but some former addicts say without that they would never have broken free of the downward spiral. The drugs make you only find joy in drugs, it doesn’t seem to have a solution
After getting clean, many addicts say giving them free drugs was the worst thing you could do for them, it just helped prolong their problems and delay their treatment. This stuff is hard because those drugs and the lifestyle that can come with it will often change people beyond what they want for themselves.
Who is giving people free drugs?
I checked my kid’s Halloween candy and found 3 whole marijuanas!
Didn’t finland do a similar thing and basically ended homelessness? They housed the homeless and provided treatment. Most were able to leave the program because turns out having housing is a huge factor in getting off the streets. I’m not sure the details but they stressed the housing portion was very important, if you want to clean up and get a job, having a safe place to eat, sleep, and shower is essential for that.
No forced rehab, lol.
You’re talking about housing first policy, and it has nothing to do with addiction. Well except the policy explicitly doesn’t care about addiction.
I know people addicted to opiates in Finland who didn’t get into care because they couldn’t “prove” they had a problem since the healthcare wanted a supervised piss test and he had shy pee so bad he couldn’t. So he didn’t get into rehab.
You’re idolising the Finnish systems a bit. A lot of them are great… on paper.
I’m not saying they don’t work in real life, I’m saying the implementation is shit but the policy is still so good that despite the fucktard bureaucrats, it’s still achieving a lot compared to some other countries. (Cough USA COUGH COUGH)
I’ve genuinely been basically blocked from life because here in Finland even recreational weed smokers are treated as complete junkies by the healthcare. Complete and utter junkies, and I’m not exaggerating. No matter how much I quote the laws and produce doctor’s notes and therapist notes. It’s crazy how archaic the attitudes towards even mild illegal drugs are. And the amount of hypocrisy in that, because most Finns consume quite a lot of alcohol to the point of often disabling themselves for a day or two every week.
But yeah we live so far North allowing homeless people to live on the street would literally kill them. So that’s probably why we’ve got this covered.
Commie blocks would help this country’s housing crisis immensely. I double dog dare him.
They would devalue owners “asset”
No
It’s kind of amazing how people will continue to vote for people who create policy that is proven to be ineffective at best and directly harmful at worst.
Yesterday my buddy who barely works and doesn’t do overtime said: “poivrière said he would reduces taxes on overtime, I want that - why wouldn’t I vote for him?” I don’t blame my buddy, and we avoid discussing politics, but these people are short-sighted and cannot be saved.
Talk politics with your buddy. Sounds like they need it.
He lives out in the sticks, I can’t undo 15 years of skipping out on education (he’s 38).
I do argue it in moderation, but I prefer to tackle critical thinking in general, and hope he learns to draw his own conclusions. He recently got over that the earth is not flat and that those conspiracies don’t hold water. He’s even starting to identify content on tiktok that is framed in a certain way.
Maybe we’ll get there one day!
Edit: Tbf he’s a mechanic, and a good one at that, so flat earth was an easy topic. He managed to understand we can’t make oldschool carburators with flat earth physics, and he knows how those work. It’s like if I tried to convince him displacement in an engine isn’t real, just invented by big oil.
He recently got over that the earth is not flat
jfk, my comrade in crisis, you have the patience of a saint.
I would highly recommend watching the documentary Behind the Curve.
It follows a group of flat earthers. It’s a really good watch, a bit depressing. Gives you a look at how these people, who aren’t always the stupid people we think they are, got to where they are. How their lives and social connections start falling apart because of their belief in a flat earth. And at the end, how some of them realised they were wrong.
