• aaron_griffin@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I really love when people use the phrase “bad apple” to refer to bad cops. As in “oh that’s just a bad apple, we’re not all like that”

    Except the full phrase is “a few bad apples spoils the bunch”

    Guys, the bunch is spoiled. Throw it away. Get a new bunch

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        I would strongly recomend listening to 99% invisible Freedom House episode. This has happened before. In the past we didnt have ambulances services and cops would often throw a dying person in a paddy wagon and then take them to the hospital…hopefully i don’t have to explain why this is bad. When the first ambulance service was being organized the cops through a fucking fit about their “jobs being stolen”. There have been a number of programs trying to take off like the Denver Star program that do similar things. They take on wellfare cases. There have also been things proposed for other types of issues that cops do. A exercise is to start thinking of cops as “murder squad”. Do you need the murder squad to take care of X? Do you need them for tickets? Hell sometimes if the answer may seem yes, but the way they do things as reckless and bloody as possible has shown that it is often not effective. High speed chases down packed streets? Shoot outs they start in heavily crowded areas? A kid who shoplifted candy and surrendered and got murdered anyway? (Know one of those). We have got to deprogram ourselves in thinking we know what police do, because what we were sold is no where centered in reality.

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            That’s what defund the police is all about, it’s not to take money away to punish the police, that would be stupid, it’s to move that money to other departments that would be better trained to handle mental health or domestic issues

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      1 year ago

      And our president, who campaigned on a BLM platform, has called for even more police militarization.

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    This is why we need to arm ourselves - because the right wing chud lunatics are out for blood.

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        Indeed, I suspect we’d see some movement on gun control if minorities and marginalized people would begin exercising their 2A rights. We all know the story of Reagan and the Black Panthers and how that played out, I suspect the same thing would happen again.

        At any rate, I recommend all my LGBTQ/PoC friends arm yourself now, spend some time at a range, maybe get some basic first-aid training, and most importantly start meeting and networking with like-minded people in your area, start building networks of people who’re on your side. Law enforcement will not protect us; if the rightwing has their way we’ll be living A Handmaids Tale and a lot of us will be dead or forced into some form of slavery. Fuck that, this is America, we’re not a Christian nation no matter how much a bunch of fundamentalists want us to be, we’re the land of the free, and when they decide to fuck around they need to find out.

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            if you’re under the impression they won’t figure out some way to create one law for “good christian americans” and a separate law for “those people” you fundamentally misunderstand what conservatism is about

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              This already exists! Many states have a denial clause in their concealed carry weapons permitting that is 🙄 justified🙄 for, “good cause” or “good moral character”. Given the rate of mass shootings, and the disproportionate number of them being committed by white men, it’s not a jump to say without clear definitions “good cause”, and “good moral character” are just another codified excuse to justify systemic oppression.

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        I mean people used to be armed all the time and there wasn’t a daily massacre.

        people like saying this, what could possibly go wrong? but really, what could really go wrong?

        this kkk dude would have be dead for pulling a gun in front of an armed group, maybe he kills one but this should level out at some point. the crazies will cull themselves out.

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          Listen friend. It’s a pretty simple equation:

          Every other 1st world nation without an armed populous= no regular gun violence/massacres

          Us as a nation= regularly experienced gun violence and massacres

          We even have a test group- Australia. Experienced one gigantic massacre, took guns away, no more gunviolence/massacres.

          And if that doesn’t sway you in the least, I can’t believe you think everybody in this nation is competent enough to be armed?!? I don’t even think everybody is competent enough to have a driver’s license and be on the road operating a dangerous high speed vehicle, (not to mention you need both a license and insurance to legally operate a car). I mean, have you met the “average” American? And you think EVERYONE should be able to legally own firearms?? Just nuts.

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      i want to add - if you need to arm yourself but for some reason cannot have a gun, there are non-lethal weapons and guns out there. not perfect, but definitely better than going completely unarmed. if you are able to workout, that helps too. if you’re unarmed and a fast runner or a good fighter, that again is better than nothing at all.

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    Man with a gun fails to break up protest supporting human rights. More men with guns arrive and successfully disrupt the protest, sends peaceful protesters away under threats of violence.

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    I just don’t understand our societies lax take on gun control.

    In Boston, there was a restaurant owner that got mad at a guy so he rode up to him on his bike and tried to shoot him in the street! He’s only being charged with assault!

    Motherfucker tried to commit murder and shot into a busy restaurant and no one seems to really care.

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      There’s a problem, of course. To fix it, we have tried nothing, and we’re all out of ideas.

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    The police is fascist, communists have been telling you that for 150 years but you didn’t want to listen.

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      Ah, yes, the only group that that is enlightened to the dangers of the authoritarian right, the authoritarian left.

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        Police is fascist regardless of whether the gov is right or left or anything else. You need strong mechanisms in place to control fascism within the police, America has basically none, the police can do whatever they want, they literally kill black people for no reason in plain day light and they’re still not arrested.

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          I (surprisingly) agree with one of your comments, but why not just phrase your initial comment like this rather than feeling the need to force your (authoritarian) communist rhetoric in with it? Your comments are generally vitriolic in nature and get tons of down votes as a result, but obviously you’re capable of reasonable discussion.

          Instead of trying to force people to think a certain way, or fall in line with your thinking, just giving clear and constructive information and opinions. I say that as someone who very much appreciates the social and economic strength of a communist society, but I also strongly oppose authoritarianism regardless of the beliefs.