A whole swath of GOP voters appears firmly committed to not voting for Trump in November.

A whole swath of GOP voters appears firmly committed to not voting for Trump in November.

Donald Trump has a problem no matter what happens in New Hampshire on Tuesday night: There’s a whole swath of the Republican electorate and a good chunk of independents who appear firmly committed to not voting for him in November if he becomes the nominee.

It’s an issue that became starkly apparent in polling ahead of the Iowa caucuses, when an NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll of voters in that state found that fully 43 percent of Nikki Haley supporters said they would back President Joe Biden over Trump. And it’s a dynamic that has been on vivid display as the campaign shifted this week to New Hampshire.

“I can’t vote for Trump. He’s a crook. He’s too corrupt,” said Scott Simeone, 64, an independent voter from Amherst, who backed Trump in 2016 and 2020. “I voted for him, and I didn’t realize he’s as corrupt as he is.”

  • frezik@midwest.social
    12·
    10 months ago

    “I can’t vote for Trump. He’s a crook. He’s too corrupt,”

    I heard the same from Republicans the last two times. Each time, they lined up and voted Trump.

    • Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de
      4·
      10 months ago

      I understand the sentiment, but did you verify that specifically the people who said they wouldn’t vote for Trump, did vote for Trump??

      I see a lot people mentioning this kind of thing where “a group” says one thing and does another, but never a discussion on if that’s 2 separate subgroups. I do know that at least a few people would totally flip teams, but I always wonder how prevelant that really is. It would be interesting of the republican base does turn out to be fractioning off that hard.

    • Aermis@lemmy.world
      1·
      10 months ago

      Look I know that Trump would be much worse for majority of Americans than Biden would be, but most democrats don’t want to vote for Biden either. But they still will. Just like Trump voters would rather keep it republican than go Democrat, even if that means they don’t want Trump.

      I’m still disappointed and quite honestly hurt that I have to vote for Biden. But here we are. Americans on both sides bitterly disappointed and feel like it’s over for America if either candidate wins. There is no good candidate. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a nationwide revolt yet. Americans have been voting in the below average red morale since Trump and Hillary were candidates. Except maybe the die hard avid Maga trumpers. They’re the only ones that are voting in the green morale. And they make up a small minority of Americans.

      Nazi party in Germany only controlled 1/3 of the vote in the elections that got Hitler into power. Nazis weren’t popular in Germany. But they were happy with their leader.

  • Daxtron2@startrek.website
    62·
    10 months ago

    We have to hope that enough of the left will suck it up and vote for Biden. I get it guys, he’s got a lot of issues. I don’t particularly like him, but if we want our country to continue being more-or-less free, we don’t have a choice. It’s that or prepare for a civil war, and I know I don’t particularly want to die on the mason-dixon line

  • Ashyr@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    10 months ago

    There’s a lot of stupid people in these interviews:

    “I can’t vote for Trump. He’s a crook. He’s too corrupt,” said Scott Simeone, 64, an independent voter from Amherst, who backed Trump in 2016 and 2020. “I voted for him, and I didn’t realize he’s as corrupt as he is.”

    You voted for him in 2016 I might grant ignorance then, but in 2020?

    Then there’s democrats on the other side turning up their noses at the idea of voting for Biden as the lesser of two evils. This is an existential fight for democracy and people are getting persnickety with fascism at the gates?

    • RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      I can forgive some Trump voters in 16. A lot of them were just following the time honored script of republicans good, democrats bad, go team. I knew a few that eventually saw it for what it is and had enough character to admit they were wrong.

      But that’s pretty damn limited. We knew who he was in 16. There were no surprises for most of us during his presidency. If you then voted for him in 2020 you had excuse. You were just a fucking idiot.

      If you vote for him in 24. You’re not only an idiot you particularly hate America and you’re a joke.

  • CodeName@infosec.pub
    1·
    10 months ago

    If 8% of his former voters have gone never trump that sinks him in pretty much every swing state. Some of these were decided by just a few thousand votes in the past two elections, and 1% margins or less.

  • loxo@lemmy.world
    1·
    10 months ago

    Trump is a symptom of the disease that will never die. We all have to keep fighting, voting, discussing. Late stage capitalism will attempt to silence us all.

  • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
    0·
    10 months ago

    “I can’t morally support the lesser of 2 evils”

    Yes you can. Not voting/third party voting helps the Republican party. This is a mathematical fact. Every single person who doesn’t vote for Joe Biden and could is supporting Donald Trump. If you’re an eligible voter you can only influence the election in one of two directions. There is no “sitting out” option. It does not exist. Not voting does not remove your influence on the results, it simply lessens the impact.

    Biden is not my first choice by any means, but this is the reality of the situation. If you think it could be fixed by electing Republicans to power I would be very interested in hearing how the fuck that would work.

    • xor@infosec.pub
      0·
      10 months ago

      edit: i’m saying ive heard it, not that it’s something i agree with
      i have heard the argument “with a democrat as president, the left is asleep”
      i.e. there were no major protests during biden’s presidency that involved burning dumpsters…

        • xor@infosec.pub
          1·
          9 months ago

          well, the idea ive heard, is with a democratic president, they still do evil shit like destroy the environment and arm genocidal regimes… but the left is placated by a few concessions and symbolic gestures…
          while under a replication president, they start actually disrupting things, organizing, and making changes…
          i think there’s some truth in it, but it’s a stupid strategy…
          there is definitely better punk rock under republican presidents, though…

          always a silver lining ;)