• IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    All Final Fantasy games have bad writing and cringe inducing dialogues. Which was fine when the games had no voice audio, but I just can’t stand it in the modern FF with voice overs. Square Enix really needs to hire competent writers that aren’t solely influenced by manga.

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    11 months ago

    Final Fantasy 2 (actual 2 not the one with Cecil) is way underrated. Its got a dialogue system like Morrowind, skills that get better as you use them, a fantastic villian, and great story beats. Its also the first game to have Cid. Also also people love FF for the mix of fantasy and tech and 2 is the first game to really embrace that theme. 1 has a one off robot and the airship, but 2 really shows the empire abusing technology to retain power.

    SPOILERS SPOILERS [people love 6 because the world gets messed up, but 2 did it first with the empire destroying several cities] END OF SPOILERS

    And you have talking beavers and I think thats great.

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      11 months ago

      I had to scroll a bit but I found a fellow cultured fellow. I have FF2 on multiple platforms and not only do I agree with everything you said, but it makes me very sad that its system never got to be developed further in FF games. I love replaying it because I can focus on different play styles each time. Beyond some moments of grinding (like getting certain spells to drop or leveling select spells) the game/story is short and sweet. Also, one of the things I love so very, very much about FF2 (and 3 for this reason): so many enemies in one battle. I love prioritizing enemies or just AOEing, sometimes unloading just to survive or being very methodical so to conserve spells/MPs (depending on the version). Lastly, I love how good support is: control, buffing, debuffing - it’s all solid. If I hated anything, I’d say that some versions has odd status healing/preventing.

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      11 months ago

      The music is also great! I think people hate it because they try and min-max the combat and not just enjoy it for what it is.

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      11 months ago

      I enjoyed it more after I played SaGa, felt like an earlier version of that idea, really underrated, the only people that really have genuine hate are probably japanese since it was quite bugged at release, but westerners played the mobile or psp ports of it that are fixed, it’s a good game.

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    11 months ago

    The first FF was the best game in the series. It was your party from start to finish. You could replay with different class make-ups. They didn’t close off parts of the map as you progressed through the story and dump in characters or take them away as events unfolded. And, you could level 4 black belts to 50 and one shot Chaos with crazy 24 hit combos.

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    11 months ago

    FF7 remake’s battle system sucks. Some spells whiff so often they’re basically useless (aero against Eligor anyone?), punisher mode is so much better than operator mode there’s no real point in having the latter except for the fact that punisher’s walk speed is awful, the roll’s terrible range and lack of I-frames make it borderline pointless, items shouldn’t use ATB gauge, and guard break is a stupid mechanic that just stretches out fights while making making them less fun.

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      11 months ago

      100%

      My problems with IX are slow combat. My problems with VII are everything else.

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        11 months ago

        agreed; this doesn’t mean i hate 7 though (it’s only of my favourites); i just think the emotional depth and growth of the ff9 cast - both antagonists and protagonists - is that good.

        plus freya is probably the best character in ff history

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        11 months ago

        The real combat is handling the hours of screen swirls and camera flying uselessly around the battlefield along the way. Otherwise, it would be a fantastic game.

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      11 months ago

      agreed, it was a clever bait-and-switch-with-an-out

      “no, remake doesn’t stand for REMAKE … it stands for RE-MAKE the story, completely, like … history is being REMADE! it’s time travel baby!”

      they knew what they were doing; literally EVERYONE was expecting a close remake of the original game for modern consoles, instead we got a FINE and VERY COOL SEQUEL, but nothing close to the REMAKE they led people to believe.

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    11 months ago

    The ‘Squall is Dead’ theory is canon for me and I don’t give shit what the developers say. That theory makes the story infinitely better.

    Also, VI is better than VII.

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    11 months ago

    FF8 is the best, exploitable stats mechanics were really fun and even realising enemies scale up their stats to match up with your broken build, so all your leveling was working against you. It was refreshing.

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    11 months ago

    I liked the original ending of FF7 a lot more before the lore was expanded by other entries. I thought that in order to save the planet Holy literally killed every human in the world and it was just Red XIII and a bunch of animals running around in the post apocalyptic ruins.

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      I like to refer to it as “the Star Wars one”. I could never keep all the Judges straight, the static in all of the voice actor recordings was horrible, and the main cast felt pointless. They were just an audience to the political intrigue and I couldn’t care less. Legitimately couldn’t tell you what the plot is about. Fran’s buttocks carried me through to finishing it.

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      11 months ago

      Are those two separate, unrelated statements? XII and XIII both had turn based combat.