• barsoap@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        I’ll just leave my comment from further down in the thread here for you two:

        I don’t like MBTI either, they’ve had a hundred years of opportunity to do science but never used it. They’re a business selling coaching re-investing into marketing, not science. I’m merely using their abbreviations because they became a lingua franca.

        MBTI being bunk doesn’t mean that Jung didn’t spot something real, though, even if he proved nothing and could only describe it fuzzily (he didn’t even describe 16 types, but eight, based on primary cognitive function. In that rough model ISTPs and INTPs are one and the same which we definitely aren’t). The whole of Psychological types is basically saying “hey guys there’s something here we should have a look at it”. Chapter 10 is the interesting one, the rest is… philology? It’s the best proof he could muster back then give the man a break that was 100 years ago.

        On the scientific front the best the typology community has right now is Juan E Sandoval’s stuff, the pilot studies are quite promising but there’s more theorycrafting to be done before applying for grants for properly-sized studies to then throw at the scientific establishment saying “prove us wrong”.

        In case of tl;dw: Consider embodied cognition, and following from that that cognitive operations are expressed outwardly by various gestures, suchlike, CT calls the lot of it vultology. Then make a taxonomy of markers, analyse a lot of video marking those things and throw statistics at the data, what you get out of that is bimodal distributions, showing that there’s actual differences between people (that is, unlike Big5 axis which don’t have bimodal distributions). Make a twin study, observe that twins share vultological clusters, strongly suggesting that those clusters are innate. Flank by psychological questionaries establishing correlations between the vultological clusters and self-reported cognition.

        You can say that you’re sceptical but if you say that that’s not doing science then I don’t know what to tell you, either.

        • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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          10 months ago

          You can say that you’re sceptical but if you say that that’s not doing science then I don’t know what to tell you, either.

          Isn’t skepticism the bedrock of science? The scientific method (heavily simplified) requires a hypothesis, predictions based on that hypothesis, and then testing of those predictions. I don’t see any predictive power in the MBTI matrix, which means it’s unfalsifiable. This is different than your twins example, where you can predict certain characteristics of the results.

      • Banda@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 months ago

        I was thinking nbd charge a dollar cover fee and rent a venue or something.

        Then I realized there isn’t even a stadium in the world large enough to host 1.5 million people. You’d have more friends than people that gather for a royal wedding. It’s an absolutely absurd amount of people.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
    1·
    10 months ago

    1.5millions friend seems so hard to keep up and will soon drift away from everyone, leaving just a handful.

    1.5million dollars tqvm.

  • kameecoding@lemmy.world
    0·
    10 months ago

    Bruh, easily the 1.5 million friends, you can ask each for more than a dollar and never pay them back, so you lose the friends too, win win.

    Id borrow a hundred from each and enjoy my 150 million

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
      1·
      10 months ago

      You don’t think 1 friend will put that on social media that you’re asking, and your plan immediately falls apart?

      Now 1.5 million people think you’re a gold digger

  • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    1.5 mil. dollars easily.

    Even in my best times I can’t handle that much people or even remember them.

    I’m INTP.

    What’s your type?

    I guess Lemmy is filled with NT\NF types even more than Reddit.

    • barsoap@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      The FLOSS community is full of ITs (no pun intended) regardless of N so no, probably not. Let me see. In a software company:

      • ISTJs are the guys dressing like civil engineers. They’re generally busy quietly doing work – especially maintenance, for which everyone would be thankful if they knew maintenance is being done. They generally keep out of banter but occasionally drop an absolute nuke, upon which people remember that they exist.
      • INTJs are easy to spot: They’re the ones wearing all black in an attempt to not draw attention to themselves. Yes you heard it here facts don’t care about your intentions.
      • INTPs look somewhat lost (as usual). Most common position within the team is mathematical oracle.
      • ISTPs like me make sure that you nerds aren’t feeling sorry for yourselves. We mostly do that passively: Other introverts think we’re extroverts and therefore cool.

      Then, bonus introverts:

      • ISFP is a very capable coder as long as it’s graphics or sound programming. Indispensable at every game studio, also excellent UX/UI devs. Like ISTP, often gets confused for an extrovert because of all that pazazz.
      • INFPs do exist. Kind of elusive how that works but e.g. Linus Thorvalds is one.
      • INFJs would be capable, but just aren’t interested, they rather become teachers. You may be able to obtain one by promising TED talk opportunities.
      • ISFJ is not actually a programmer but feels very included doing the payroll and making sure there’s enough coffee in the pantry. And making sure INTP eats something else but buttered noodles once in a while.