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- slackernews@lemmy.world
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- slackernews@lemmy.world
The specificity and quantity of information the text and multimedia platform can access poses a risk to most users, if it falls into the wrong hands or is used to target them, tech experts agree.
“This is a hacker’s dream,” said Claudette McGowan, a longtime banking executive who founded Protexxa, a Toronto-based platform that uses artificial intelligence to rapidly identify and resolve cyber issues for employees.
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And yet some want to hear meta out before deciding whether to federate or defederate from them.
Lmao. That I never understood. I literally read some comments “everyone deserves a second chance”. Say what???
They already had their chances with all their other products. Every single one of their products spies and sells data
It’s marketing and nothing more. Just a tabulated list of reasons they think people will accept.
Serious question:
How much data does the ActivityPub protocol give out if it was to be federated and I was to, for example, reply to somebody on a Threads post using this account?
Or is the objection more that we don’t want 99% of the Fediverse to be hosted on Threads?
I never have an expectation of privacy when it comes to content posted on any public platform.
It’s being part of the audience that engages and provides content that leads to the feedback loop to stay in the Meta platform I’m so completely against. Same reason people deleted their content from reddit so it doesn’t provide future direct engagement to the platform through comment responses, upvotes/downvotes, and search engine results. If people want to post a link or copy paste comments to Meta I’m fine with that. Meta users are welcomed to lurk or create separate accounts here to use non meta federate instances. Go scrape or set up an instance and get all the content for all I care.
But, being actually part of the same interacting group that is choosing to feed into the value of Meta is not what I want. I didn’t come here to be a meta user and whether it’s through their instance or indirectly through federation that people can reply to your comments like you did mine is enough to be part of the Meta user base at that point. No thanks. At least back on reddit you know you aren’t directly contributing to the Meta platform and only interacting with the reddit user base.
All of the data Meta could gather by federating is available to anyone who sets up their own server. The hacker would just need to know how to use docker. What’s scary is the extra information Threads users give away by being on threads.
and that alone is worth not supporting such a gross company via never federating with them
that extra information is among other things:
The privacy policy Threads has embedded in Apple’s app store shows it may collect, and link to your identity, data including your health and fitness, financial, browsing history, location and contact information, along with the broad category of “sensitive information.”
It’s not lurking I care about. I don’t want to be interacting with them at all or providing any sort of comments for them to respond to. You know… Same reason people deleted their content from reddit so it doesn’t provide future engagement to the platform through comment responses, upvotes/downvotes, and search engine results.
And I have way less issue with Reddit and chose to delete stuff to remove interactable content on their platform. And I actually do like reddit compared to Facebook, and still chose to burn bridges that way. So I think it’s no surprise why I don’t want federation with them. If they want to lurk and scrape public data that’s fine. I don’t want to be a contributor to Meta though more directly than I have to.
I’m not sure what defederating from them solves in regards to this topic. If they wanted Lemmy, Kbin, & Mastodon’s data, they could always just set up another instance with a different domain name and not publicly announce what that domain name is, and we would have no idea who to defederate from. Or they could just scrape the data from the web page, no federation needed.
I don’t want to see their content, which is a valid reason to defederate (or block, if that were possible at the user level) imo. But defederating because we want to stop them from getting our data is not even slightly effective, so I think it makes an unconvincing argument.
It’s not lurking I care about. I don’t want to be interacting with them at all or providing any sort of comments for them to respond to. You know… Same reason people deleted their content from reddit so it doesn’t provide future engagement to the platform through comment responses, upvotes/downvotes, and search engine results.
And I have way less issue with Reddit and chose to delete stuff to remove interactable content on their platform. And I actually do like reddit compared to Facebook, and still chose to burn bridges that way. So I think it’s no surprise why I don’t want federation with them. If they want to lurk and scrape public data that’s fine. I don’t want to be a contributor to Meta though more directly than I have to.
Those are shills and likely getting paid by Meta to come in here and shill. You all really ought to go complain to the admins of the instances allowing it, and move to instances that don’t.
I wish I had the money to set up one. I’d do it and ban those scumbags on sight, and defederate with any instance that refused to regulate them.
I’m sure the 2 billion+ instagram, facebook and whatsapp users will be absolutely shocked by this and stop using it /s
Why would anyone use Threads/Facebook/Meta, is beyond me. Big Social and especially Zuckland collects so much sensitive data, and it freaked me out when I first learned about it. After that, I moved to Fediverse and have been there since. And became a much more privacy-conscious user. Of course in our day and age, escaping from surveillance is difficult but at least avoiding the Big Social is an important step, in my opinion.
I still can figure out how the app would have any access to my photos, finance or health information if I don’t give access
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-permissions-bypass-play-store-apps/
This was back in 2019. Wonder how much permissions have improved to fully deny apps from attempting to collect data if permissions are denied.
Yeah I am sure Meta collect it anyway. I heard they even have shawdow accounts for people who don’t even use Facebook or ever would.
Yeah, shadow profiles are a major issue, both on a privacy and online safety level.
Ugh, reading Suck’s (keeping that error) bullshit responses enrages me; he never answers the question. I deleted FB c.2014 but have friends that still use it, so I’m fucked regardless of my ad/tracker blocker.
Also, that threads homepage image looks like someone took pictures of all the massive shites they took over a week, composited them, and then adjusted the sliders to black-- adding a prism gradient for the text area. They aren’t spending their money on graphic designers…
Blocked Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp and Meta on DNS. One day I checked the logs and saw Facebook so I started investigating and turns out many apps have trackers in it like Spotify host Facebook trackers. Blocked Spotify now.
How do you replace Spotify
*man gets bitten by snake*
Hmm, I got bitten. That hurt
*man gets bitten by snake again*
Ow, that hurt
repeat
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/DyaJ-C5mA2Y
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
I love this bot
Wait Hol’Up…“Keystroke Patterns”…??? Does that mean it is harvesting my password manager master password???
Everyone freaking out every time they realize every fucking ‘type ahead’ or “predictive text” system is essentially a Keylogger. Android and Iphone keyboards, the chrome browser, etc are keylogging all your shit already, and any javascript typeahead predictive engine that has to ask a service “what comes next” has to by it’s nature have the things that you’re typing to predict the next thing.
Predictive text isn’t something I normally see in password fields.
you’d think it’d get disabled for all the things, but yeah…
If you had one or two of their plugins/options enabled in chrome it was smart enough to detect when you typed your google password outside of google and send you to change it.
Password manager feature maybe?
Well, I do use a password manager, so maybe that’s it.
To the suprise of… no one.
