• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This will be as effective as the do not call registry and CAN-SPAM. Which is to say, it will be a sick joke that won’t do shit by design.

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      11 months ago

      I remember signing up for the Do Not Call registry. I got more spam robo calls after signing up than I did before signing up for it. It was a joke.

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        11 months ago

        Hey everyone! Here’s a list of phone numbers! Real, legitimate phone numbers! Anyone can view this list of phone numbers, for free!

        But whatever you do, DON’T call anyone on this list, OK??

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      11 months ago

      CAN-SPAM is effective for legitimate businesses with something to lose. Several times I’ve ended up on a list with an unsubscribe link that doesn’t work (looking at you, Walgreens). I contact their support, and if they don’t do anything I send them an email demanding they remove me and cc’ing the federal trade commission and my states attorney general. Hasn’t failed yet.

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      Because there are legitimate reasons for some robo calls. Appointment reminders and confirmations, school weather closure announcements, two-factor login verification, etc.

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        11 months ago

        You can do all this things without robo calls. There are no robo calls in Germany for example.

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          11 months ago

          I thought I lived in a pretty backwards part of Germany but your corner must be extremely off the grid!

          To just name one example in Germany: Verification via robo call in WhatsApp.

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            Oh, I genuinely didn’t know there are robo calls in Germany, never encountered them - always used sms or other kinds of verification. My bad.

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        11 months ago

        It would be a good trade. Lose the few semi-useful legitimate ones to get rid of the overwhelming majority which are malicious scammers and conservative dickbags.

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        11 months ago

        No there isn’t.

        Text if school is cancelled. Throw 2fa out the window. Phone numbers are not identity. Text appointment reminders. Literally nothing needs a robo voice that isn’t better as text.

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          Phone numbers actually can be an identity, but generally that’s just business numbers. There’s also a lot of phone numbers that aren’t cell phones and can’t get texts. It’s a lot easier and cheaper for companies to design one system. Depending on the company, they’ll still do text/email reminders for things. Old people like phone calls, so companies need to know their audience too. Again, cheaper to build a single system, so that tends to be the default.

          Source: I design call centers for a living, personally done probably 200+ projects over the years, in banking, insurance, retail, transportation, state/local govt, etc.

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            11 months ago

            Absolutely not. I can’t use my Amazon account because of this stupid shit.

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      iirc, they are banned… to cell phones, with very limited exceptions.

      but that relies on honest callers, and sufficient resources being available to adequately enforce.

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      11 months ago

      Unless they’re evil radical leftist Democrats, those Marxist-Leninist Antifa communist fascist socialists. Then they’ll be hanged.

      MAGAts get a wrist slap.

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    11 months ago

    But deceiving people for money is fine? Why this one stipulation? Should just be outright illegal to use deep fake anything to deceive for personal gain, profit, or to hurt others.

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    Is this like how the FCC banned robocalls and ensured that a national do not call list is respected?

    Oh boy, we’re saved /s

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    Fine? They will be happy to pay the fine if it means they can fool thousands of voters.

    Fines aren’t enough for this kind of behavior.

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      11 months ago

      Fines are enforced with prison. It’s just the portion of wealth and income that determines how much distance is between the two

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      Unfortunately, the FCC probably doesn’t have the power to do much more than fine them. It would probably take congress to pass a bill to have jail time or something.

      I’m purely guessing though

      Reading the article, it sounds like the FCC has enforced similar stuff before. And at up to a $23,000 fine it could add up quickly. And the precedent of previous large fines makes me think this might actually have some teeth.

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    Oooh that mighty governmental watchdog the FCC?! Oh man, that’s some serious stuff. The only group more deadly serious than the FCC is the FEC. Now those guys you can’t even look at sideways before they take you down.

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    “This infringes on advertisers constitutional right to deceive the public for personal gain based on our historical tradition of fucking the average american”-US Supreme Court Conservatives.

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    Robo-callers usually don’t care at all what the law says. This law will do almost nothing. But it’s the thought that counts.