• Kayn@dormi.zone
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    Opera does this too and nobody bats an eye (anymore).

    For some reason people like to clown on Brave specifically.

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      1 year ago

      Yep, this news actually broke a couple days ago, I remember seeing a Brave fanboy having a meltdown over it and ranting about how Mozilla is the real shady company, blah, blah, blah.

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          To be fair. Mozilla foundation is shady. They keep pushing things that don’t follow their core mission. That try to expand their brand.

          You can use Mozilla to build solid privacy respecting systems, but Firefox out of the box not so much. They’re better than Google, but that’s a low fucking bar.

          Mullvad browser, Tor browser, mull for Android - all use the core Firefox open source engine, to make privacy respecting programs that work out of the box with privacy respecting defaults.

          So I would say Mozilla is a good guy in this conversation, but not a saint.

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            Though they are transparent with the fact that they are doing it. I’m not a fan of it either, but it’s not too shady when they’re open about it IMO.

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              Fair enough, they aren’t evil to be sure.

              The Mozilla telemetry, pocket, Mozilla synchronization, experiments, the new tab page basically being an advertisement page. That leaves the sour taste in my mouth, so I don’t trust them because of that… Shady good guy vibes:)

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                They’re doing what they think they need to justify their existence, and although I personally believe being just a great browser would be enough I appreciate their communication around their ventures. It’s not great, but it’s not like they’re installing malware in the background.

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                  https://itsfoss.com/firefox-looking-glass-controversy/

                  They get pretty close sometimes. I respect their mojo, but I don’t install vanilla Firefox anymore. On anything. For any reason. I don’t trust them anymore.

                  I wish them the best, if I could donate directly to Firefox development I would, but it’s impossible with them. So I don’t. I donate to mullvad, I donate to the Tor project, and I donate to servo. That’s what I can do to make sure we maintain an open and free web

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    1 year ago
    • Download a browser with a built-in VPN
    • Get browser and VPN services on your computer

    Why is this news?

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          there’s a term for appropriating the struggle of an oppressed group the way you just did, but I can’t remember what it is. Anyway - I feel like you’re assuming everyone is talking about you when we’re not… If we don’t like something that you like, you can just mind your own business…?

          If there’s a post about someone doing something bad, and people talk about how bad it is, but you think it’s good, are we all supposed to stop talking about it because you showed up?