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    For reference, that’s 31.5% of all House Republicans. Another way to see it is that 68.5% of House Republicans, which are generally the most extreme breed of Republican, are supportive of US military aid to Ukraine. I’m pleasantly surprised to find support for Ukraine remaining that high.

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      And in early 2015, what percentage of Republicans openly supported Trump? How many of them voted to impeach him? How many of them voted to impeach the second time?

      Make no mistake - this is extremely alarming and you should wake up. I legitimately can’t believe I even have to type this comment out. We are so fucked.

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        There should be zero US dollars spent on Ukraine and Israel as long as homelessness and healthcare are still a problem in the US. The fact that I even have to remind people of this problem is alarming.

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          Homelessness and healthcare aren’t stuck behind money in any way. There’s no need to even reduce the military budget or Ukraine donations to make them happen. It’s just that nobody but the poor people wants them solved. Everyone involved profits from it.

          There are way more empty residential properties in the US than homeless people. The inefficiency of the current healthcare system is so bad, the US government spends a bigger part of the GDP on healthcare than many countries with universal healthcare - and that doesn’t even include private spending.

          But you know what? Doctors in the US can make about 10x as much as doctors in my eastern-european country with socialized medicine while the difference in median salaries between the two countries is barely 3x. People will tell you it’s just insurance companies profiting off the system while everyone else suffers, but it’s also doctors, nurses and the ultra-greedy hospital administrators. Property owners in the US have been enjoying huge value appreciation for a long time. Did you know that some 65% of Americans own a home? All of those people are profiting off the unaffordable housing market, some more than others.

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          Lol, you have to be gullible to think the conservative politicians actually cares about balancing the budget. If we cut off Ukraine they’ll just go back to their old excuses for screwing over poor people.

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    Remember when a certain senator stood before the house with two blank pieces of paper and said most democrats supported Russia?

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      Remember when a certain republican said that Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat facing America and all the Democrats laughed at him?

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        Have you seen that video where Xi Jinping and Putin shake hands and basically announce that they intend to upend the existing global order, meaning US “rules based” hegemony?

        Russia itself isn’t a threat but so far it’s brought together China, Iran and parts of Africa that are done with US colonization and living under the US’ boot.

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          China has its own imperial ambitions in Africa. There’s no good super power, but at the end of the day, Russia was the one that invaded Ukraine. No amount of RT propaganda will change that.

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            Of course they do. Just because I’m critical of the West I’m not automatically in favor of other autocratic regimes. But it’s been a long time since I’ve seen that many African leaders standing up to their Western oppressors and that wouldn’t happen if the Chinese/Russians and their deals would be as terrible for Africans as the Western ones. They’re openly challenging the West right now and it’s about time that happened.

            I trust that China/Russia are more trustworthy in terms of letting other countries decide their own fate without engaging in regime change/color revolution style interference just based on historical precedence so far.

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      Money. There’s no way Russia/rich people/criminals aren’t playing with these people. My conspiracy is that these people are so dumb they don’t know that they are being used or they are just really narcissistic.

      Edited…

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      Because they think it’s a stupid proxy war that doesn’t serve the US (because it strengthens BRICS which hurts the Petro Dollar) and that US support for Ukraine is a ploy to ensure that supposed US funded biolabs (that are pretty much confirmed to exist, afaik) aren’t uncovered, because Joe and Hunter Biden are likely to be involved in them via the company Metabiota.

      I’m as irritated as everyone else because it’s usually not the Republicans to be the sane ones but it seems the Democrats are even more corrupt nowadays. The FBI is actively trying to suppress evidence of bribery of a sitting President and it’s even denying answering Congress (or Senate? Not 100% sure which one, I’m not an American) inquiries.

      The world has gone mad.

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        Wow. Everything you just said was wrong. This war has empowered NATO and the US more than every action taken by the US in the last 20 years combined. The biolabs theory is a joke as is the idea that a republican FBI director appointed by Trump would protect Biden. I always hear about how non Americans have a better perspective on US news, but deluded misinfo like this makes me believe that idea is bullshit.

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          There’s been lots of mainstream reporting on the corruption allegations and the Senate/Congress hearing where the FBI chief kept on repeating the same evasive non-answers I mentioned were livestreamed. Can provide some sources once I’m back at home, though, if requested.

          I’m usually not in a debating mood when people just start calling me a liar though. I’m not even in favor of republicans/centrists and I consider myself an anarchist more than anything else so I’m not really into partisanship here. 🤷‍♂️

          I’m perfectly fine with people having different opinions and arriving at different conclusions but just calling me a liar when I can back up my claims is no good style.

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            Key concept: ignore allegations and only follow convictions. Then you’ll see most accusations are bullshit/projection from those committing the crimes. Hint: nearly all true convictions/guilty pleas are from the R side.

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    Too many of them are beholden to Russia and its interests and have been for some time. Not only that, but also just doing the opposite of whatever Democrats support which isn’t constructive at all.

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      Republican policies boil down to

      • Opposing “the commies”;
      • Guns.

      Wait. How did they end up in bed with Russia?

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        The “opposing the commies” bit used to be an anti-authoritarian stance. But now republicans have openly embraced autocracy as political language. It makes perfect sense from that angle.

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          It follows rather directly. For it to be high treason to be against sending more military resources to Ukraine would mean that either the representatives are members of the Ukrainian government or, as was implied here, that Ukraine is a puppet state.

          It’s not high treason against the USA to be against the USA sending military resources to another country. You can only commit high treason against your own country.

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            You’re willfully dancing around the actual point OP is making. You can’t be a grown adult and think this concretely without doing so in bad faith.

            The point is that opposing this is directly showing support for Russia…

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          Please don’t parrot incorrect statements without bothering to read the rest of the thread from a position of arrogant ignorance. This claim has been repeated over and over yet not a single person has bothered to back it with any actual law. It’s not in the constitution, if that’s what you think.