• 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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    At this point I don’t think I should have degoogled my life, I should have just gotten Google to pay me to continue to use their products. Given the what they’re paying everyone else, I must be worth at least a few hundred dollars a year.

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        In terms of my data on the market, yes. But in terms of Samsung’s user numbers divided by 8 billion I’m worth about $6. Based on what they paid Apple, each of their users is worth about $15. I just need to get my invoice on the right desk.

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              That’s impressive. Usually the target organizations with a lot of autonomy, but poor payment controls. Like school districts… the schools usually have the autonomy to enter into their own small contracts, but a central office has no idea what invoices are legitimate without calling every school for each invoice.

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              Depends on how contract savvy you are… if you word it as a service contract where acceptance is payment, you can sometimes get away with not sending them anything.

              But generally yes, that’s what you would do. Often times it’s ink for a discontinued machine that nobody uses before. The ink itself is probably recalled.

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      You are, but you’re not getting it.

      Probs get down votes, but look up data latte, you can put your data on the blockchain (anonymized) and get paid if somebody buys it, eg for market research.

      Which essentially is what Google does. Sells your data to the market

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          Until the blockchain bro actually provides evidence that their system works, I would approach it with skepticism generally reserved for people with long trench coats beckoning you into dark alleys.

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              Participate in surveys that actually matter.

              Seems like yet another survey rewards site except maybe with blockchain and dollars

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                Not just that. You also have to pay a fee to get your NFT, so you have to spend money before you might make money later… If anybody buys one of the 80 or so NFTs that have been made since this project launched over a year ago

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              We leverage Ai and blockchain technology to guarantee user privacy, anonymity, and trust.

              Okay, yeah, this is genuinely insane. Blockchain doesn’t mean anything except for “append-only distributed database” and “AI” in anything less than a technical context is also meaningless.

              Own Your Data with NFTs: Secure, immutable, and blockchain-certified. No fine print, just you in control.

              And we already know how much of a joke NFTs are. They are digital receipts at best. If I can download somebody’s monkey picture and own it more than they do, then saying your data is protected by one is dishonest.

              In 2022, “130 NFTs were claimed, and 59 NFTs were minted.” A year later, they’re up to 77. That’s 18 mints in 365 days.

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                And we already know how much of a joke NFTs are. They are digital receipts at best.

                Have a longer think on that. Interoperability with receipts and a programming language. Sounds like it could go somewhere.

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                  I think you’ll have to be creative and tell me what they solve that other, more efficient, existing things don’t.

                  I’ve been quite creative here by diagnosing myriad issues with this system. It’s over engineered, it uses too many buzzwords, It’s woefully under adopted, it won’t ever replace an existing system, etc.

                  Regarding NFTs, you’re going to have to be the one to convince me they have any value, as calling them glorified digital receipts is maybe a bit too kind.

                  https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9gi

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        If your data is on a public blockchain, why wouldn’t I just wait for someone else to give me your password to it? Then I don’t have to pay you, do I?

        And why do you think that sacrificing your dignity for a dollar or two will stop the giant corporations from simply consuming your data the normal way, or simply sharing it amongst themselves?

        One of the dumbest things I’ve seen cryptocurrency advocates do is insist you have some extra right to your data when you put it on somebody else’s computer in read-only format.

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          The pure data isn’t sitting on the blockchain itself, but in a ipfs or something similar. But the contracts and tokens allow you to automate it and own it/give out access to it to a certain extent.

          Its a small project, but I like the idea, could be something.

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            So… It’s a glorified password protected zip file inside a folder on a website?

            Doesn’t sound like the contracts and tokens are necessary.

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              You can go pretty far with that analogy. A docker container is just a glorified zip folder in a kubernetes cluster. Yes sure you get some of its functionality, but you’re missing quite a bit.

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      Technically based on how much you’d need to pay for the different services to replace Google it kind of works out? Eg. It’s the price you’re paying for free Gmail, search, calendar, etc etc.

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      Maybe. I’ve always thought that Samsung has wanted to maintain a fully operational, competing ecosystem so that it can slot something into place if Google suddenly cuts it out of their walled garden. That includes throwing anything at the wall, to see what sticks.

      Not even Google seemed to care about a universal assistant, based on how they cut down their own application from its original feature set (things like showing reminders, etc) to just being an annoying news app now… Maybe Samsung was faster on the draw there.

      Or maybe they’re giving up. Who knows.

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        Bixby was actually pretty useful before they abandoned it. I remember using Bixby Routines to configure my phone to set itself to vibrate when I was at work and within work hours. I can’t seem to do anything but an or condition with Google’s replacement, “Modes and Routines.”

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          Modes & Routines is literally Bixby Routines renamed to remove the Bixby branding (and to avoid confusion with people thinking it’s part of the voice assistant). Absolutely nothing was removed from this change other than the Bixby name and it’s still the same good and old Samsung developed app, Google has nothing to do with it.

          Judging by the fact that you can set multiple if conditions (and it explicitly says “when all conditions below are met”) straight from the main view of the routine, it means you haven’t even tried creating a routine at all.

          https://i.imgur.com/zjouWZj.png

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            Hm. Turns out mode is something different from a routine. Who knew?

            Thanks for the tip.

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          My Samsung (s23+) comes with modes and routines installed, and it appears to be Samsung not Google, at least according to samsung app store.

          fwiw.

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        Google is shortly replacing all assistant apps with GPT powered versions. They gutted the dev teams to skeleton crews a while back, then restocked the departments woth machine learning people. The teams can’t work together at all, and that’s why the products are shit now. I’ve very little faith in future advancements from these teams of disparate developers.

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    One thing to note, Lg has their own app store, they would bundle it on smartphones along with the playstore. I remember having a phone from them that did the bundling. Now I use Blu phones.

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      Has? They pulled out of the phone market a while ago, I’d be surprised if they are still maintaining it. They certainly aren’t a threat to Google anymore!

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    How did this post get nearly 200 upvotes but fewer comments, then an average post with 75-100 upvotes I mean I get this this news is shocking because it’s Samsung not apple, so it is a new leak regarding Gogole, but sheesh a lot of things this week was just about as ‘shocking’

    The numbers are impressive, so i’m not necesarilly complaining, but those numbers caught my eye. congratulations op

    • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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      Many people vote but may not have much to say about the topic or that someone has already said what they’re thinking.