The reddit API debacle sent me down a Lemmy, FOSS, Linux, privacy, hacker rabbit hole that I will hopefully and happily never have to leave. My eyes are opened to a better future. I’ll probably be duel booting windows for awhile still to keep up for my job, but I have been able to start transitioning away pretty easily thanks to the hard work of linux desktop devs. I am so grateful for the FOSS community and hope to contribute myself someday.
One of us, one of us ! Proxmox vaultwarden owncloud openmediavault docker-mailserver openwrt syncthing
why syncthing and not nextcloud
@jackpot @interdimensionalmeme Syncthing does not require a server and is much easier to set up from a user perspective.
no server, how does thay work
@jackpot You add every device to every other device and they connect directly to each other. If direct connection isn’t possible (1 out of 10 times) then a relay server is used. The relays are provided by the community for free (I am running one).
Why a screwdriver and not a driver drill?
Mostly vibes
Syncthing seems really good at filesync and backup
Owncloud vs nextcloud
Nextcloud seems just a tad too popular
They may only use it for files and stuff and don’t need a full cloud office suite
I’ve been mostly using Windows in a VM. I’ve not booted into my Windows partition for months now while sitting there almost untouched for 2 and an half years, and in one week or two I am getting rid of it. And with my Steam Deck coming I will install Windows on that on an SD Card, so in case I ever need a physical Windows system for something (likely some anti-cheat crippled game, or Microsoft Store exclusive game, or a software that for some reason doesn’t work on Wine or in the VM) I have one ready.
i remember doing that, now i just play something else.
Yeah, if they can’t even bother making it work with Proton then I can’t bother giving them money.
The only game I needed to boot in Windows was to try Valorant. I didn’t like the game :P
if its anything like me fast forward 10 years and using Windows will give you a skin rash.
life is good
It’s good to have you here!
The true year of linux is not any specific year or a userbase percentage but when linux is widely preinstalled on consumer hardware without nerds needing to recommend to people to install it themselves
The steamdeck is the first step to that future
In my region (India), for a while, there seemed to be plenty of laptops available with Linux installed as an option. Then again in the last few years that seems to have withered down to almost none, sometimes even if the same model is available with Linux in some other regions. I am not sure what changed. Perhaps some deal with Microsoft. The good part is that the fact that they do support Linux elsewhere on the same laptop configuration generally means its easy to get it up and running yourself even if it does not come pre-installed.
In any case, as an old-timer, it’s very impressive to me how much hardware Linux supports nowadays without any drama at all. Not to mention all the progress made in software especially in supporting Windows-only games, which is truly magical work by the Wine / Proton teams. As far as I am concerned the “Year of Linux Desktop” is here already since I can use it daily without missing absolutely anything at all from Windows.
That was the same in Brazil, where I live. This scared the beejesus out of Microsoft, so they created special, cheaper version for developing countries to counter it.
Steam Deck is the first taste I get of Linux. I’ve always had this fear of not being able to fully utilize a Linux OS due to my lack of skills in coding, but I find myself looking into it more ever since I got a Steam Deck. It may just be the right excuse I need to git gud in coding.
Edit: Thanks for the clarification and encouragement guys. I’m going to make it a mission to move to Linux ASAP since it feels like Windows has been really pushing the limits of privacy these days.
You don’t gotta know how to code to use Linux. Maybe some basic skills in scripting will be useful as a tool but other than that it’s more about learning how the system is laid out and where to go to do things. Just becoming familiar with doing things in a Linux environment
You don’t need coding, don’t worry. :) It’s useful to start learning the Linux command line however.
you don’t have to know coding to enjoy Linux! it’s got a reputation of being techie-oriented thanks to users of Arch Linux (a very techie distribution of Linux) dominating the Linux community, but there are plenty of distributions for everyday users, like Zorin OS and Elementary
The steamdeck is the first step to that future
I’m sure people said the same about android
I get that SteamOS is an actual desktop distro, and that’s closer to a daily driver than any android or bespoke *nix compatible SOC OS, but I doubt we’ll see this spread from steamdeck to daily drivers, unless…
Unless linux can offer some feature windows/mac/ios do not, or at least market itself as doing so the way that Apple does, and get the overwhelming majority of tech consumers—who want nothing more than to keep up with the joneses and see the hardware specs numbers get bigger—to FOMO into it
Unfortunately that would conflict with the most enticing features it does have that no one else does: a code of ethics that are inherently anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian. And honestly, who wants every Linux community, online or off, flooded with consumers who only care about the newest Feature™ and have no care about maintaining software freedom?
The only thing I see holding people back is software availability. If it could run adobe and games natively I don’t see why anyone would want to pay for windows.
Software is definitely at the top of the list in terms of reasons. But the UX/UI definitely leaves something to be desired. I sigh heavily every time an application asks me to edit a text-based config file instead of giving me a GUI. It’s an unnecessary, error-prone process and most importantly I have better things to do than read yet another page of documentation. That doesn’t mean I want the config file to go away, it’s still very useful for a variety of reasons. But I shouldn’t have to mess around with it just to remap keys or other common tasks. Editing a config file should be a last resort for an end user.
You see similar problems when relying on the terminal. I don’t like this idea of the end user being allowed to mess around without a safety net or some sort of guidance.
tbh everytime i use a non linux OS im baffled by the lack of software availability… its basically a desert when it comes to good software, but of course if you want proprietary garbage you have all the choices XD
run adobe and games natively
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adobe sucks for the same reasons I alluded to in my last paragraph. Money-grubbing corporation company hurts developers by patenting, trademarking, and copyrighting every minor feature in their programs to the point where FOSS alternatives have to bend over backwards to find ways to implement some of the same functionality. The problem isn’t linux, the problem is adobe, the problem is profit-motive, the problem is capitalism.
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IDK what distro you use, but I’m using Debian, and it does run games natively–nearly half of the ones I own on steam. Not all of them, but that’s not Linux’s fault, that’s not Gnu’s fault, that’s not Debian’s fault: they already offer compatibility layers and yet that’s not good enough for everyone, and there’s not much they can do beyond that outside of building a windows clone (or at least a partial clone) that would probably get them sued. To run natively, the devs would have to compile it to run on Linux and the ones that don’t are making the choice to not do so–consciously or not, because of profits or not; it’s hard to say why, even indie devs who make free games as a hobby sometimes choose not to, so it’s not as easily dismissed with “because capitalism”
That all being said, the “software availability” criticism can cut both ways. I’ve found so many tools and utilities and apps and FOSS programs that are only made available for linux (unless one is willing to port them oneself), and there isn’t an app or program I use everyday that I haven’t found a linux-compatible alternative for. The glaring exception being games; to me that wasn’t a huge deal, I’ll bite that bullet because I’d rather go without kernel-privileged spyware for an OS–and the same for an anti-cheat engine–than play a triple-A on maximum graphics, play online multiplayers that require microsecond reaction time, or other such use cases where Proton actively hinders UX. Like I said, I’d rather have anti-authoritarian computers than worry about keeping up with the performance spec joneses
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i love how the whole population is apparently a graphic designer XD not a dig on you but i always find hilarious this argument from non-professionals like " i need PHOTOSHOp to edit my grandmas pictures!"
Tbf I am a graphic designer haha.
I think it’s more about trying to change particular industries. If all of Adobes software was available for Linux in a supported and stable versions, you could see changes in the OS used in lots of design and creativity industries, which again would change what OS people use at home.
Also I think the force of being open source and spread over so many distros, is also a weakness in terms of getting the mainstream user to use it. My dad will call me or ask his friend about how you do this and that in Windows, but if our OS per default looks different from what others are using, he will not be able to get the same kind of help from his near community, and will have to rely on a more technical kind of support.
And things have to work out of the box. If I hear “You CAN get it to work” - I won’t use it. I need things to just work, I don’t have time to (nor interrest in) spending a night mingeling with config files to have simple things do the things they’re supposed to.
Unless linux can offer some feature windows/mac/ios do not,
doesnt spy on you, its a nice feature
True, but Apple has already pivoted to being the “privacy-friendly” OS/devices. Whether or not that’s true–I don’t know for certain (I have a hunch, though)–they have much more visibility and influence and marketing, and therefore will cement themselves in people’s minds that way.
Besides, I like the idea of Linux existing outside the capitalist paradigm; instead of competing with the big names in the market, it’s on the outskirts playing its own game and absolutely crushing it. It has survived decades based almost entirely on word of mouth between computer nerds instead of vying for attention in the mainstream. As a technology it has achieved the platonic ideal: it is so good at what it does that it doesn’t need marketing, it survives solely on reputation and quality and user upkeep.
True, but Apple has already pivoted to being the “privacy-friendly” OS/devices.
i mean… for idiots… anybody with any knowledge in the fields knows its bullshit. So im not sure how is that a point… people are too stupid for their own good? yeah we knew that already
about the second part i think you just have no idea what you are talking about linux is capitalist as fuck sadly and its corporate as it gets.
@stappern @BaumGeist Care to elaborate on the latter statement ?
https://project.linuxfoundation.org/hubfs/Reports/2021_LF_Annual_Report_010222.pdf?hsLang=en
just look at the board of directors XD
I love Linux but I’ve been hearing this song since 2002. I’d love for it to grow bigger but we should stop framing it as the year of Linux.
I’ve been hearing this song since 2002
That’s the joke, my guy. THIS TIME IS REAL!
I met the linux kernel on the bus station on my way home yesterday, and asked him about this and he answered with a simple “yes” and left.
i hope that day never comes
We used to be the 1%…
angry bernie sanders screaming
🍲
time to move to freebsd linux is too mainstream now
Freebsd is too mainstream, openBASED FTW!!!
Laughs in Linux web server market share.
Android sits on top of linux so linux is already by far the most widely used operating system in the world in consumer devices.
Is this with or without the steam deck?
Not that I don’t like the steam deck, I think it is really great for linux adaption. I am just curious.
This is in the StatCounter FAQ:
Are laptops included in the desktop platform?
Yes. Laptops and desktop machines are included in the desktop platform together. We use the browser useragent to determine the platform and there is not enough information contained in the useragent to distinguish between laptops and desktops. That is why we do not have a separate laptop platform.
So it sounds like they’re using the useragent to distinguish between mobile and desktop. So most likely, yes, steam decks would be counted as desktops, but only to the degree that they are used to browse the internet. I suspect most steam deck users don’t do that, but I don’t know, I don’t have a steam deck.
That makes sense, thank you!
Wonder what dent the 40M rasberry pi’s make, not to mention virtual desktops and the like! The number may be higher than 3%!
probably not much, since i imagine most raspberry pis are being used for an embedded project and not as a desktop/web browsing computer.
Definitely.
So, these statistics apparently come from StatCounter, a web analytics company. I know that this is probably the best way of collecting usage metrics for the entire Internet, but I think this is less efficient for counting Linux users - after all, I would say that the proportion of Linux users who also use content blockers is pretty high. Even if it weren’t the case, most distributions ship with Firefox pre-installed, which automatically blocks trackers out-of-the-box.
Also, wouldn’t this also count an embedded device with a WebView as a “Linux user”? For example, smart TVs have a web browser, and typically identify themselves with a “Generic Linux” user-agent.
I believe those “IoT” (I hate this term) devices count as “Other”
this, im never popping up in one of these stats and ive been using linux for 10 years
At this rate, we’ll be 30% in 300 years!
2323 - the year of Linux desktop.
this stuff is exponential, getting to 0% to 3% is harder than 10% to 30%
I just wiped Windows from my main PC the other day and put Linux Mint on there. Feels good man.
I remember in the beginning when leaving windows how quiet everything was. No notifications from windows about all kinds of shit, no ads and no interruptions. Have you noticed how calm it feels?
Good on you mate, and welcome aboard!
Assuming it isn’t you first time: there’s a slight learning curve, but once you’re passed a few months and you’ve resolved a few issues on your own you won’t look back!
Look into KDE extensions to customize your desktop just the way you want it! My windows wobble around or fizzle out of existence when I close them. :)
My first introduction to Linux was back in College in 2005. I ended up doing it off college but I’ve messed with Linux on and off over the years. A few months back I put GalliumOS on my Chromebook and I’ve done all sorts of stuff with the Raspberry pi. I wouldn’t say I’m proficient in the slightest and I know very few terminal commands but I think I can manage.
Oh, you’ll be fine then. Haven’t used Mint personally, but I’ve heard good things about it! Always reach out for help.
I’ve federated my server with a lot of Linux content so I’m pretty much surrounded on Lemmy.
Hello, I want you to know that Linux Mint has some issues:
- Their site was hacked twice and a malware-infected ISO was being distributed.
- They have a mixture of repositories where they get certain crucial things from Ubuntu’s repositories; this can cause trouble.
That being said, you may want to give Ubuntu officials a try instead.
Getting to 50% might take a bit xD
That being said, I want Linux to be a good alternative and talk Microsoft down from the AI/ad/Onedrive in Windows cliff. It’s getting exausting.
There is a chance it might become exponential for a bit. Its never gonna reach 50% any time soon, but a good percentage to actually make companies produce more often to it will definitely happen.
I´d gladly ditch windows immediately if I could only play all my games on linux …
Check out protondb.
Pretty much the only thing you cant play are games with really nasty AntiCheat/DRM.
Everything else, if its not good now? It’ll probably be good in a update or two from proton/GE
Nice, I didn´t know things where lookin so good!
Have you heard of Proton?
I love Linux, I hate Windows, I installed Linux, but there was one thing proton could not hanlde, all my visual novels. I’ll completely switch to linux when it supports visual novels or Virtual Machines with a smooth performance (or when I finish reading all the visual novels) Damn, I’m trapped on Windows 10 until that day.
Ive seen plenty work on linux just fine
Yes but from what I know Proton can only make some of the games I like work on linux and some not. That is inconvenient and a pretty big downside because it would force me to use a boot manager and go dual OS just to be able to play all my games, something I could also do just with windows only.
I’ve dabbled in linux for years but could never break my reliance on windows. I got a Steam deck and realized there was enough compatibility to justify moving to linux. So I just recently gave a flavor of linux called Nobara a shot. It’s by a Red Hat engineer that contributes heavily to getting games working in linux through Proton. My experience has been way better but I wouldn’t say perfect. I think it’s worth checking out to see if it works for you.
I will wait until I can conveniently play all my games on linux and then make the switch. Seems like we are getting closer but are not quite there yet.
All the games i want to play are workimg 100% on linux. Have you checked protondb for your games?
@luthis @Nacktmull I don’t even check before buying anymore. Everything runs fine, and I can’t remember the last time I bought something that didn’t work out of the box.
I had no idea, will check it out!
I’ve been playing most of my games on Linux since, well, years. When Valve introduced Proton it made things even easier, and currently I just enable Proton Experimental on Windows games and it just, works…really impressive when you think about it :)
How is the experience with online multiplayer?
I’ve enjoyed using my steamdeck and that OS. Would happily install a desktop variant of SteamOS when available but I mainly play single player games on the deck, I worry I won’t be able to enjoy a number of multiplayer games.
@Madnessx9
@SirFredman
If the game has anti cheat look here https://areweanticheatyet.com/
you can play most of your games. considering the pros its worth letting a few games go. its not like you dont even enough to play with…
Sound like you are addicted to videogames
So what?
Just waiting for my AMD gpu to get here and I’m making the switch on desktop. Been running linux on my laptop for a year already. Few minor issues here or there, but for the most part been super reliable.
I know it’s not a very Linuxy distro, but Linux Mint (Cinnamon) is so easy to use, especially for Windows users. I’ve completely replaced Windows (and with better software), aside from using Windows for a few games that require it. I used Ubuntu, Suse, and Fedora long ago, but for me, Mint takes the proverbial cake.
I’m a linux user in the past 20years, and used to work with high maintenance / cutting edge distros like arch but grew tired and now use exclusively mint. Very stable, quiet, beautiful ux (tho cinnamon can look more modern).
I think many linux users go through a similar journey. In the beginning you feel a need to tweak everything manually, you take pride in it being difficult and you polish your dotfiles. Modifying the OS itself is 90% of what you use the computer for. You have strong opinions on tiling window managers. But then that becomes kind of old when you need your computer for actual tasks and work. You want to work on your actual projects, not configure irssi or ncmpcpp. The joy of tinkering with the OS itself transforms into seeing it as a tool to do interesting things with. Still, now you have an idea of how to fix things, where to look, but configuring Xorg is not the fun part of using a computer.
My favorite is fedora. Ubuntu second. It’s alright but it’s bloated. I have a thing for gnome.
Kde plasma and other kde stuff seems promising too.
Eventually id like to use arch.
Being a beginner distro doesnt make mint any less linuxy. Its probably the gest recommendation to convert people over from windows
Thank you. I appreciate your perspective. Using Linux again has been like a breath of fresh air, honestly. I just love how fast everything is. (Both my Windows and Mint boots live on their own M.2 drives, but Mint is so, so much faster.) And, unlike Windows, I don’t feel like I have to jerry rig it to get things to work. I’m sure there are instances where that is the case, but I haven’t run into them yet.
I feel like fedora would be good for Mac converts.
Year of the Linux desktop (as my daily driver) has been 2017 for me. Nowadays I dread having to work with Windows.
same
I like your thinking, I have a dual boot on laptop with windows 11 and LMDE installed, and its been a while since I booted to windows for personal use. Unfortunately for me I am still dependant of windows until Autodesk decides they will create the software I use for the linux environment as well. Until then, I’ll rock on with personal “freedom” of linux, while I’m a slave to the corporate / microsoft
Ah yes, like last year. And the year before. And …
Isn’t that the joke tho?
