• Eximius@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I would be fine with cars being made more dumb. The chips cars need (to work, without half-assed shit infotainment systems) don’t need to be manufactured by tsmc.

    Computer chips are so expensive per volume, I feel they will not get impacted too much, but it would be nice to have fabs for it in Europe.

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      6 months ago

      You might be fine with it, but the world is not. And you still seem to not be seeing the forest for the trees. This applies to virtually every modern convenience you are used to. None of them can be produced locally when you get down to the components.

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        6 months ago

        I understand, I just don’t see why it couldn’t and shouldn’t be produced more locally. Yes, there might be a huge impact for 5 years or more, but I perceive it as infrastructural debt and over-reliance.

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          6 months ago

          Yes, it could be produced more locally but, as I said, there would still be massive global shipping issues and prices would still be a problem.

          Also, five years is a hell of a long time for things to be massively more expensive. And you’re not going to be able to build the hundreds of various factories you would need in five years.

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            6 months ago

            Building something incredibly specialized like a computer chip fab or a nuclear plant (due to extremely hand-made nature and safety requirements) might take a decade, but for something as well understood and much more approachable as cars, 5 years for building a hangar and getting the required equipment is quite reasonable. One could even look at Tesla for how it does work.

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              6 months ago

              Cars and computers are not the only things that need to be manufactured. I’m not sure why you seem to think this is just about one or two products and not every piece of technology that surrounds you right now.

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                6 months ago

                It’s much more approachable to talk about specific items, and to some degree we can extend this to everything, with more and more details