WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • Praise Idleness@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Because like it or not saying “Too bad you didn’t die from that” will not only lose moral high ground but also already-can’t-aford-to-lose votes?

    Are you suddenly pro-violence because one is a someone you think is the Hitler 2.0? I get the sentiment but I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what Jan 6 people would say to Joe.

    Don’t fuck the higher moral ground. Why be them to fight them? Celebrating public shooting is doing more than just losing moral highground…

    • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 months ago

      “Thoughts and prayers to the man who wishes to make America a fascist dictatorship because of Russia. It’d be rude to wish that man dead.”

      Violence to fascists is self defense for minorities, especially ones like me. I bet you if Trump died, the Mexicans locked in cages at the border would cheer. I would.

      • beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip
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        6 months ago

        When Trump starts calling for certain politicians to be unalive and even gets the ok from the Supreme Court, I hope all the people crying about the moral high ground remember this moment

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          They’ll say we’re the true monsters for wishing the camp guards to keel over and die as we dig our mass graves.

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        6 months ago

        Take some solace in the fact that thoughts and prayers are laughably useless. It’s just “well isn’t that a shame” only somehow society hasn’t caught on that it’s a fucking joke.

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        6 months ago

        Do you really think that Trump wouldn’t be replaced by a more evil and intelligent republican, and then win because of Trump being a martyr?

        The republicans have Trump as a runner because he’s the only one who has any chance or winning. As soon as he’s politically-motivated murdered, that changes completely. It’d be even scarier to have an actual smart fascist at the helm.

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      6 months ago

      That makes so much sense! Hitler had to commit suicide because no one else could execute him without risking losing the moral high ground! I can’t believe I never realized that!

      • Praise Idleness@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        We have other means to stop Trump. If he gets elected and becomes Hitler 2.0 dictator as advertised and that there’s no other way to stop him I’d say go for it. Heck, I think constitution would too.

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      6 months ago

      So you don’t understand the Trolley Problem? I’m not sure the “moral high ground” is necessarily what you think it is in this case.

      • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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        This is not the trolley problem. The question is not kill Trump or. The killing attempt failed. Trump is alive. There is nothing to gain by advocating for political violence after a failed assassination attempt.

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          If this was an assassination attempt on Hitler in 1939, would the trolley problem not apply? If the attempt succeeded before his successful rise to power, how many lives would have ultimately been saved?

          I don’t think you can say either way for sure which outcome would lead to less bloodshed… I do know that trying and missing is probably the worst possible outcome…