Stay safe, everyone.
Quick summary of where things are at:
- a shooter brought a pump action shotgun to a building site and started shooting at workers
- two people plus the shooter are dead
- three people seriously injured, three moderately injured
- one responding police officer injured
- does not appear to be politically or ideologically motivated
- shooter was recently sentenced to home detention on domestic violence charges (thanks @SamC@lemmy.nz).
More from police press conference:
- weapon not illegal type, but offender didn’t have firearms licence. Unclear how he got weapon, not previously known to have weapon
- was on home detention but had exemption to work at the site
- indications that motivation was related to the work site
- isolated, no wider risk, no reason for others to be worried about safety
- no concerns regarding FIFA event safety
Gunman was on home detention for domestic violence: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300931632/auckland-cbd-shooter-was-on-home-detention-for-domestic-violence-charges
Maybe not the place to start a discussion on domestic violence, but it’s correlated with so many outcomes we don’t want as a society that getting people professional help at the first sign of trouble seems like an obvious starting point.
Therapy, anger management, drug or alcohol dependance treatment, etc. I’m not sure that we have much support for any of these at the moment.
Oh jeez not another one :(
Stay safe as best you can, everyone, and don’t post police radio information.
I hope it’s a crazy guy and not a targeted terrorist attack.
If anything good can come out of tragedy like this, maybe it can be better mental health awareness/action.
Not sure it matters that much at this point… multiple people dead
Edit: that said, it does seem like it was a crazy guy
Any source on multiple dead? I’ve only heard 6 injured, 3 of which seriously. And maybe the gunman is dead?
That is a really unfortunate url 🤔
It is understood a 24-year-old man working at Commercial Bay was the shooter, taking a shotgun into his workplace, Newshub reports.
Really horrible thing to happen. I hope we can find ways to stop this sort of thing happening again. Aroha to the families affected.
A cultural report prepared for the sentencing said Reid had a “systemic depravation” in his background, a disconnection from his culture, a history of family instability and hardship and have been exposed to domestic violence and physical abuse as a young person.
He ran away from home at an early age. The report writer said there may also be some mental health issues.
I guess we should have seen it coming.
Who would have thought that poverty causes crime.
Is this actually a quote from one of the news stories? Just wondering if so, as it seems completely believable and I would not be the slightest bit surprised if it was true
Edit just read story linked below, and it is a quote from that
You’re absolutely right, we should have seen it coming. More precisely the judge responsible for sentencing him should have seen it coming. That is what he is paid for
I recommend a book called “Noise: A flaw in human judgement”.
It looks into variation in professional judgement, they talk about how in any professional judgement, people are all over the place. It’s a good read but does get a bit stats-y at points. I don’t think you need to understand the maths to get value from the book though.
It spends a lot of time talking about US judges, and they do talk specifically about judges gauging flight risk of people being granted bail. They get it right like 55% of the time, and the author’s computer models do better at like 60%. It’s just really hard to judge. I would guess if every person in their circumstances was not granted bail, you’d need a lot more jail space.
At times like this I’m very glad we have the police that we do. Compared to places like Aus and the States I mean.
They get a lot of criticism (much of which is probably justified), but when the shit really hits the fan, they’re reliable and in there doing the really tough stuff.
