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Good meme but also I’m guessing they don’t really mind lol
Bone density loss, radiation exposure, extended recovery time post microgravity.
I’m sure they mind as much as all those things matter.
I also imagine you prep very differently for an 8 day mission vs a 6 month mission. In terms of physical fitness, trainings, family life etc.
Psychological fitness, too. 8 days away from civilizations is a very different mental state to get into than 8 months away.
Imagine being stuck in a space station 250 miles away from the human population for 8 months with one other person and they have some annoying roommate quirk, like snoring in their sleep
Imagine not being able to wank to your preferred porn because of fucking Houston.
I hope they have Surfshark and Librewolf installed up there.
Oh crap, I left all those lights on in my house?
“Hey can you feed my cat for a week while I’m in space?”
Vs
“So I’m stranded in space for the next 8 months, can you just adopt my cat for the foreseeable future?”
Both my cat and I would be absolutely devastated.
Only one answer.
Cats in spaaaaaaace
They tried that already
Turns out cats really don’t like not being able to land feet first
🤣 right?
Hiring a dogsitter, making sure the house is maintained and tidy, everything. Think about the difference between going on a 1 week vacation and taking an entire year to go hike a triple crown trail.
I’m certain NASA helped them with a contingency plan in this case. Pretty sure they also planned out if their craft crashed.
Like for sure. An astronaut has more assistance with this from the ground crew than any of the rest of us. But that’s all shit these astronauts are going to be thinking about and stressed about that needs to be discussed on calls to update them on the situation that wouldn’t have been if things were going according to plan
For sure it would’ve been better if things went according to plan. They’ll miss their families too. But I’m just saying, if I were in their place, I’d have the utmost confidence that NASA is going to bat for them and doing anything physically possible to make the best of everything.
Well, they have the free time to discuss it…
On the upside, it will be great scientifically to see how long term space living effects those not fully prepared for it. I’m sure they are better than your average earthling, but it will be useful to see how they compare mentally, physically, etc, to other long term astronauts.
Entire life disrupted because they are literally no longer on the same planet as everyone else
Yeah I mean, they only signed up to be there for so long. And are they paid on a contract? If so they are literally just losing money.
They’re employees of NASA. They receive a salary. They probably get hazard pay as a bonus, though.
Why on earth do you think it would work like that?
On Earth? That’s not very space of you to say
Because I’m Canadian, I have never worked as an astronaut and it was a mission on a private crew capsule that I know for sure was handled with contracts.
But I wasn’t sure, and I was corrected, thanks to the good people of Lemmy.
Bone density loss is combatted with exercise. Also people have spent longer then what the Starliner astronauts will in space. So radiation isn’t a huge concern
Even with exercise, bone and muscle density deteriorate in microgravity. More radiation than planned is generally not a good thing. Is it generally fine? Yes. But being exposed to more of it due to Boeing using unqualified labor to assemble their tickets is absolutely an issue.
There are significant health complications that come with long term space travel.
- Bone density loss. From the lack of daily impact on the skeleton from walking, moving around, and lifting things.
- Loss of muscle mass, also from the lack of use. ISS residents need to adhere to a pretty strict workout regimen, and still have issues with significant muscle loss when they return to earth.
- Radiation exposure. The atmosphere protects us from a lot of radiation, simply due to the fact that air has mass, and is able to stop a lot of radioactive particles before they reach the surface. Airline flight crews (like pilots and attendants) are considered an increased radiation risk, because they spend so much time at high altitudes. It’s even worse in the ISS, where the only thing between them and radiation is some thin glass and aluminum.
- Loss of coordination. Returning to the surface is more disorienting the longer you have been in space. Basically, you get used to the way microgravity feels, and suddenly experiencing gravity again is a shock to your system. You’ll constantly drop things because you’re used to things just floating when you let go of them. You’ll fall over, because you’re not used to actively keeping yourself upright. The same way long-term respirator patients need to re-learn how to breathe after being taken off the machine, long-term microgravity means you need to re-learn how to exist in gravity.
And because of “The Martian”, people think going to and living on Mars would be a snap.
We can’t even rescue people from orbit.
Yes, because the movie is all about how easy it was and nothing goes wrong
The movie WAS FICTION. Is fiction. Will remain fiction. Mars is less “human friendly” than the moon.
They’re not really in need of rescue though, they’re on the ISS. Their return vehicle is just a pile of garbage. Thanks again, Boeing.
They’re literally stranded in space with no way home, sounds like they need rescuing to me.
I read the book, it’s hardly a snap. The guy drinks his own piss and eats potatoes fertilized by his own shit for like two years.
That would potentially poison him. Human, dog, cat, and generally any carnivore/ omnivore shit is considered “hot,” and must be treated before use as manure.
The perchlorates in the Martian regolith he uses for most of the soil would kill him faster.
Fair enough, I just knew about the feces because I wanted to have some way to actually use my dog shit. It’s not really doable at home, unfortunately.
Film theory did an interesting video where they concluded it’d be okay since he’d only be intaking a little over time. (Not saying that’s true)
Treated how?
Mix it into compost so that the ratio is 30% droppings or less. This can be used as landscaping fertilizer, but even then it’s not recommended to use for food production.
And you’re saying it would be fine to use if we didn’t consume meat?
I’m unsure. I know there happens to be a correlation between the species that are (mostly) herbivorous, and their dung being able to be used with food production. I don’t know if our gut biome would prevent the use of purely vegan poo. I prefer the sewer as a solution, or a latrine.
Yeah they reference this in the book, it’s always from him when he uses the bacteria (meaning in theory it’s only his own pathogens or bacteria). He uses his crews shit that’s been dried and left in Martian temperatures so it’s sterilised.
It’s FICTION. Not real. Never happened. All events portrayed in this movie aren’t real.
It is good fiction - possibly the best sci-fi movie to come along in a while, but nevertheless it’s still fiction.
No shit? Do you think I thought it was a documentary?
I read interviews with the author where he goes into detail on his research to make the main character’s survival plausible, and it’s fascinating stuff.
Make a pact with Boeing and you’ll be floating in space somewhere.
I haven’t watched Rick an Morty. Am I missing much or is the humor too modern for a Xillennial?
The joke is straightforward. 2 minute cold open of a quick adventure becoming a massive ordeal breaking them, making Rick say they need a vacation which the episode is about.
You left your SI in the link
Thanks, removed it.
Why does that matter? what does it do?
Your SI is a unique tracking code Google assigned to you. When you share a link to a youtube video, Google puts your SI in the link, even though it doesn’t serve a purpose in helping people reach the video. What it does do, when you visit a link with someone else’s SI, is tell Google that you followed a link shared by this other person. This lets Google see who you’ve been talking to on other platforms, and track your relationships and social movement patterns.
The modern internet is a fucking nightmare
Oh I know the joke. I really mean about the show. Is it just very quotable/memeable or is it good too?
Yeah it’s great! Check it out.
It’s my favorite show still on air.
it’s very fun, and the creator made another show Solar Opposites that is very good too. honestly think i prefer it to Rick and Morty!
I heard of that. Might check that one out instead.
Honestly, give it a watch and see if it’s for you. Last I saw it was available to stream on Hulu (and uBlock Origin does a good job blocking Hulu’s ads)
I found it enjoyable but I don’t have a strong need to rewatch it. It’s raunchy and absurdist, but does some cool SciFi things I haven’t seen elsewhere. But it’s way less deep and intellectual than some of its stans seem to think
That sounds like a very fair description. Thank you.
Does Hulu still block Canadians though?,
First season is decent but contains a lot of piss/fart/burp jokes; it calms down a bit afterwards. The really best seasons are 4 and onwards.
It’s fun to watch if you’re not too easily offended and like the genre.
The really best seasons are 4 and onwards.
To be fair, there’s a lot of GREAT shows that needed a few episodes to a season to really find themselves.
Rick and Morty took half a season, Supernatural was a slog for over a season until it started leaning into having fun instead of just brooding, the Doctor Who Reboot’s production values are distracting for the first season, on and on.
Honestly, the best shows seem to need to go on a bit of a vision quest early on.
It got a LOT better in later seasons
I watched the very first episode, it was pretty bad. Also the fan base are awful.
it’s easy to avoid the fandom. esp if you aren’t on Reddit lol
