• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    What is the other option in American democracy? A third party that’s not going to win?

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      4 months ago

      Voting isn’t just about winning. It’s about telling the powers-that-be what you want.

      You know how people describe the free market as “voting with your dollar”? Voting is like voting with your dollar. Except it’s voting with your vote.

      Honestly, I think American democracy is already almost dead. America is a corporatocracy. The politicians think their job is to please the corporations, and the corporations will squeeze the life out of America as far as possible. Our communities are dead. People are broke and miserable. Families are falling apart. We’re turning against each other. The Democrats aren’t going to fix this. The Democrats helped create this.

      The Democrats have to give us a reason to vote for them. They should be working to earn our vote rather than working to serve the corporations. “Vote blue no matter who” gives the Democrats no incentive to be better.

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      4 months ago

      Do you think that people should ONLY vote for a party that is going to win? That’s not very democratic.

      I’m voting third party. And proud of it.

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        4 months ago

        I mean, if you want things to get better, yes.

        Voting a third party is fine as long as you understand you are enabling trump and are making things worse for Palestineans and the millions who will suffer from worse climate change outcomes etc.

        If that’s something to feel proud about, that’s, well, up to you.

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          I mean, if you want things to get better, yes.

          Like I said, that’s not very democratic. And I’m very glad that not everyone believes that.

          Voting a third party is fine as long as you understand you are enabling trump

          Nope. If I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d vote for Trump. Like almost half of the country is doing.

          If that’s something to feel proud about, that’s, well, up to you.

          Very proud to vote third party! Thank you!

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            Voting a third party is fine as long as you understand you are enabling trump

            Nope. If I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d vote for Trump. Like almost half of the country is doing.

            Pretending your choices don’t have consequences is childish and not a position worthy of respect.

            If you see a toddler running into traffic and you don’t stop them, sure you didn’t make it happen but you are still responsible. Similarly, if you understand the pain that trump will cause and you don’t help stop it, that’s on you.

            It’s your choice but be adult enough to admit the consequences of your choice.

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              Pretending your choices don’t have consequences is childish and not a position worthy of respect.

              Pretending that just because one doesn’t vote for democrats, MUST be enabling Trump, is childish and not a position worthy of respect.

              Voting for a candidate that aligns with my values is a responsible and thoughtful choice, not a refusal to acknowledge consequences.

              Supporting third-party candidates challenges the status quo and pushes for the real change that major parties often ignore.

              Blaming voters for the actions of others oversimplifies the complexity of our political system and ignores the importance of advocating for what we truly believe in.

              It’s your choice but be adult enough to admit the consequences of your choice.

              Yes, it IS my choice, and I explained why I am doing it, and I’m proud of it. Nothing you have said has changed my mind at all. I vote for Green Party and Socialist causes/issues. And I will continue so. Regardless of how many try to bully me or try to sway my vote.