I wish eventually it’d become the he facto version. But Debian is so slow to update. Apparently kids these days get anxious if they don’t have a system update every other hour and they buy new hardware every weekend. So Debian is too old school to be useful to them.
I’m curious what do people here consider “old” since that’s the top complaint about Debian? It’s never more than a year or two behind “bleeding edge” distros. When I think “old”, I’m thinking 10, 15 years ago. That’s considered “old” in the Windows world, but I guess that’s super ancient geological history in the Linux world.
@TimeSquirrel@RmDebArc_5@nottheengineer@SomeBoyo@dustyData For gaming one year is old, you want the latest drivers in order to achieve maximum performance ( * or at least increase your chances to ).
For office or media consumption maybe one year isn’t old at all.
@TimeSquirrel@RmDebArc_5@nottheengineer@SomeBoyo@dustyData Imo gaming is the only reason to use bleeding edge distros. Otherwise is risky, your system could break with every update.
Even though I said that I also use Arch for uni stuff, but I have everything backed on my own server and in the case of system failure I can simply reinstall arch and mount my network drive again
Nevermind “maximum performance”, back when Elden Ring came out I needed a fresh version of mesa to get it to run at all. That was on Ubuntu, but I doubt Debian would have been any better. At least it was an easy fix to get fresher mesa from a PPA.
Because snaps are terrible. They constantly break parts of apps for no reason. If you have container issues with a flatpak, just use flatseal to punch a hole through the container. With snaps, people will tell you to install the non-snap version because that’s easier than beating snap into submission.
I learned that the hard way when I had a university project with kubernetes and docker was installed as a snap. I spent way too much time trying to make it work at all before giving up and switching to a VM on my work laptop where it went surprisingly smooth without snaps.
Flatpaks are better in every way and since this isn’t about money, we should all just move on and use the best tool for the job.
But what does canonical think should happen when you run sudo apt install firefox and press Y?
That’s right, you now have firefox as a snap. Have fun waiting for 5 seconds every time you start it.
Shit like that scares new users away from linux as a whole.
Mint gets rid of snaps, distros that don’t are just bad imo.
It even has a Debian based release
I wish eventually it’d become the he facto version. But Debian is so slow to update. Apparently kids these days get anxious if they don’t have a system update every other hour and they buy new hardware every weekend. So Debian is too old school to be useful to them.
I’m curious what do people here consider “old” since that’s the top complaint about Debian? It’s never more than a year or two behind “bleeding edge” distros. When I think “old”, I’m thinking 10, 15 years ago. That’s considered “old” in the Windows world, but I guess that’s super ancient geological history in the Linux world.
@TimeSquirrel @RmDebArc_5 @nottheengineer @SomeBoyo @dustyData For gaming one year is old, you want the latest drivers in order to achieve maximum performance ( * or at least increase your chances to ).
For office or media consumption maybe one year isn’t old at all.
Thats what I believe
As not a gamer, I keep forgetting about games and that people also use computers to play them.
@TimeSquirrel @RmDebArc_5 @nottheengineer @SomeBoyo @dustyData Imo gaming is the only reason to use bleeding edge distros. Otherwise is risky, your system could break with every update.
Even though I said that I also use Arch for uni stuff, but I have everything backed on my own server and in the case of system failure I can simply reinstall arch and mount my network drive again
Nevermind “maximum performance”, back when Elden Ring came out I needed a fresh version of mesa to get it to run at all. That was on Ubuntu, but I doubt Debian would have been any better. At least it was an easy fix to get fresher mesa from a PPA.
What about Debian testing/sid?
Out of curiosity, why?
Because snaps are terrible. They constantly break parts of apps for no reason. If you have container issues with a flatpak, just use flatseal to punch a hole through the container. With snaps, people will tell you to install the non-snap version because that’s easier than beating snap into submission. I learned that the hard way when I had a university project with kubernetes and docker was installed as a snap. I spent way too much time trying to make it work at all before giving up and switching to a VM on my work laptop where it went surprisingly smooth without snaps.
Flatpaks are better in every way and since this isn’t about money, we should all just move on and use the best tool for the job.
But what does canonical think should happen when you run
sudo apt install firefoxand pressY? That’s right, you now have firefox as a snap. Have fun waiting for 5 seconds every time you start it.Shit like that scares new users away from linux as a whole.