• ickplant@lemmy.worldOP
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      How often do you see these views in daily media? Cause I see right-wing rhetoric that’s pretty fucked up on TV and in newspaper and on the streets. but I only see tankies in the most forgotten corners of the internet.

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          Key word being “here.” They represent a small portion of a small internet community. How often do you hear tankie views presented seriously on mainstream news?

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            That’s what i am claiming here. France Insoumise is 3rd largest political force in France, they are pretty vocal in their “criticism of main establishment” which translates to “US/Israel bad, Russia and China good”

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      I don’t see tankies/red-browns are leftists. Ultimately they overwhelmingly support authoritarian dictatorships, and that just doesn’t feel very lefty for me

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        Well left/right isn’t authoritarian/libertarian, it’s collectivist economics/individualist economics.

        Authoritarians with collectivist ideals are authoritarian leftists, i.e tankies,

        Libertarians with collectivist ideals are libertarian leftists i.e anarchocommunists,

        Authoritarians with individualist ideals are authoritarian right, i.e monarchism,

        Libertarians with individualist ideals are libertarian right, i.e anarchocapitalism.

        Of course there are more examples of ideologies for each quadrant with varying levels of “auth-lib” or “left-right,” but just to give you some idea of the differences. There’s also auth-lib centers, like National Socialists on the auth side and agorists or anarchoprimativists on the lib side.

        Of course judge all of the above groups to your own accord, but it isn’t as simple as “left means libertarian” unless you think anarchocapitalism is a leftist ideal, which it by definition isn’t.