I ultimately agree that we need to stop using industrialized meat production to get our proteins and must switch to non-animal based proteins not only to stem the rise of pathogens but to stabilize the climate.
I just do not see it happening in time, AT ALL, to address the bird flu issue right now. The author is saying bird flu is a huge threat, we need to stop subsidizing the meat industry and switch to non-animal proteins. They’re not wrong, but that is not going to happen quickly enough to stem bird flu, come on
Sounds a lot like the conservatives who flipped from denying climate science to saying it’s too late to do anything about global warming.
No, the urgency of the situation calls for all of us to do our part now. In this case even if it ends up not being enough, every effort will 1) set the stage for preventing future pandemics, and 2) give every person who makes the switch their own best chance of survival.
Oh, they have no way to stop it with incremental regulations. Incredible monitoring would be practical for them, but the inescapable part of biosecurity for animal raising is that the animals are killed (before they’re killed at slaughter). It becomes a regular and constant loss. Without monitoring, and with regular bailouts, what you end up is a system that breeds massive numbers of soon-to-be-killed animals in order to fill up holes in the ground with their corpses. The obvious fact that everyone is shying away from is that the sector needs to be shrunk or closed down, much like the wild animal farms in China (see: SARS-CoV-2).
I guess I don’t understand your statement about “believing they are on the frontier” like, what does that have to do with eating beef? Do you think that people somehow associate cowboys with hamburgers? That’s definitely an outside perspective and a weird one at that, if that’s what you’re saying.
im saying many people in america still like to think about the states in some kind of frontier fantasy with unlimited space and everyone should be able to get literally anything they want if they work. like the libertarian fantasy of no government needed because ill just do my thing on my homestead and you do yours, ignoring that there are now 8 billion people on the planet and how the industrial revolution has made it so no one lives in a bubble
I think it is important to recognize that even from the beginning this frontier fantasy was a convenient, genocidal lie that told a nice whitewashed (or rather bleached) story about the “Wild West” not already being the settled home of human beings.
This aspect of the US is in perfect harmony with the process of genocide being enacted by Israel on Palestinians in Gaza.
I ultimately agree that we need to stop using industrialized meat production to get our proteins and must switch to non-animal based proteins not only to stem the rise of pathogens but to stabilize the climate.
I just do not see it happening in time, AT ALL, to address the bird flu issue right now. The author is saying bird flu is a huge threat, we need to stop subsidizing the meat industry and switch to non-animal proteins. They’re not wrong, but that is not going to happen quickly enough to stem bird flu, come on
Sounds a lot like the conservatives who flipped from denying climate science to saying it’s too late to do anything about global warming.
No, the urgency of the situation calls for all of us to do our part now. In this case even if it ends up not being enough, every effort will 1) set the stage for preventing future pandemics, and 2) give every person who makes the switch their own best chance of survival.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=047C-mMQpSE
you’ve convinced me.
All Americans must stop eating animal protein now!! Just stop, all of you!!!
Oh, they have no way to stop it with incremental regulations. Incredible monitoring would be practical for them, but the inescapable part of biosecurity for animal raising is that the animals are killed (before they’re killed at slaughter). It becomes a regular and constant loss. Without monitoring, and with regular bailouts, what you end up is a system that breeds massive numbers of soon-to-be-killed animals in order to fill up holes in the ground with their corpses. The obvious fact that everyone is shying away from is that the sector needs to be shrunk or closed down, much like the wild animal farms in China (see: SARS-CoV-2).
look I dont think the author is wrong, I just dont think americans will give up beef as they like to believe they still live in the frontier
It’s not really an option. The real question is if people will be fine with promoting famine (could be far away) instead of eating rice and beans.
Here’s an example from about a century ago: https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/troy-vettese-do-not-let-them-eat-meat/
How are those related?
did you read the article? the author writes that the country has to move away from animal protein if they hope to stem the tide of pandemics
I guess I don’t understand your statement about “believing they are on the frontier” like, what does that have to do with eating beef? Do you think that people somehow associate cowboys with hamburgers? That’s definitely an outside perspective and a weird one at that, if that’s what you’re saying.
im saying many people in america still like to think about the states in some kind of frontier fantasy with unlimited space and everyone should be able to get literally anything they want if they work. like the libertarian fantasy of no government needed because ill just do my thing on my homestead and you do yours, ignoring that there are now 8 billion people on the planet and how the industrial revolution has made it so no one lives in a bubble
I think it is important to recognize that even from the beginning this frontier fantasy was a convenient, genocidal lie that told a nice whitewashed (or rather bleached) story about the “Wild West” not already being the settled home of human beings.
This aspect of the US is in perfect harmony with the process of genocide being enacted by Israel on Palestinians in Gaza.