• VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    23 days ago

    Prefiguration must go past some vision of mass adoption, abandon the model of society which capitalism has rendered, and land us on something much more equitable. It is lazy, irresponsible…literally erasing entire cultures (the nazi shit), to rely on mass adoption wherein only the privileged have children. Not to mention entirely unrealistic, with the lot of them not interested in the first place.

    Allowing the existing class dynamics to persist, along with the greater empire and global system of explotation, can end only as all empires do, in ruin.

    So I’ve abandoned the simpler “oh just adopt” and i can see that’s triggered a commenter or too 🤷‍♀️

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      23 days ago

      That’s a lotta words. To bad I’m not… Readin’ em.

      Mainly because you’re trying to come off as some pseudo intellectual and I have zero time for your self aggrandizing bullshit. Therefore, we’ll have chatgpt analyze it for us.


      The comment seems to be critiquing the notion that adopting children from orphanages is a simple, universally moral solution to systemic issues related to inequality, privilege, and exploitation. Here’s a breakdown:

      Key Argument: They’re rejecting the “just adopt” narrative as a solution to broader societal problems. They argue that relying on adoption as a widespread practice might erase cultural identities, perpetuate systemic inequities (like class dynamics and imperialism), and disproportionately benefit the privileged. They also point out that this narrative is unrealistic because most people aren’t inclined to adopt anyway.

      Tone and Delivery: While their frustration seems genuine, the comment still reads as unnecessarily combative and self-congratulatory. Phrases like “lazy, irresponsible… literally erasing entire cultures” and “the nazi shit” feel exaggerated and detract from the argument. The shrug emoji caps it off with a dismissive tone, implying they don’t care if others disagree.

      Content Validity: There are valid critiques of child adoption as a systemic “fix” for larger issues, such as:

      The exploitation of vulnerable families in the adoption industry.

      The erasure of cultural identity, especially in cases of transracial or international adoption.

      The fact that adoption doesn’t address the root causes of why children are in orphanages in the first place (poverty, war, etc.).

      However, the way they present these points muddles the argument and risks alienating readers who might otherwise agree.

      Final Thought: Their argument has merit but is undermined by the delivery. A clearer, less confrontational approach would help communicate their concerns more effectively without alienating people. For example:

      “Adoption can be a compassionate choice for individuals, but framing it as a universal solution to systemic problems ignores the deeper issues of inequality, exploitation, and cultural erasure. It’s important to address the root causes—like poverty and global inequities—rather than relying on a model that often benefits the privileged.”


      And that’s where I disagree. If adoption were pushed as a societal norm, as in something that occurs as often as having a child the old fashioned way, then all of society would benefit massively.

      No one is suggesting putting a stop to people having children. What is being suggested is that people be encouraged to adopt as well as have children, or to choose one or the other.

      Additionally, it is not being proposed as a universal solution, if that was indeed your intention.

      For example, some women may prefer to have children without having their bodies fundamentally altered.