Tbf that’s one of the ones they typically try to pass. One of the more popular ideas (outside of feature bans) is “tax the shit out of them.” In effect that means “stop the dirty poors from having them, but a rich guy who can pay the tax is fine.”
This was literally the basis of the National Firearms Act, which is a federal gun law we very much already have and have done for a long time. It was originally enacted in the 1930’s with the express purpose of preventing the blackspoors from achieving arms parity with which to defend themselves from whites the rich, and had a specific focus on “concealable” arms which could conceivably be used to take out high profile political targets. Which is something that was at the forefront of every seedy politician’s mind in the era coming right out of Prohibition and leading into the Great Depression, I’m sure. Boy, that sounds eerily familiar.
The NFA bans a wide swath of arms and arms adjacent things including short barreled rifles and shotguns, fully automatic guns, and silencers/suppressors.
Oh, wait. Did I say “banned?” It actually just slaps a mandatory $200 federal tax on them with a ton of paperwork, with failure to comply under penalty of the ATF kicking in your door and shooting your dog. Note that in the 1930’s $200 was an exorbitant amount of money that would be absolutely unattainable for the working classes simply to afford a shooty toy, but was easily within reach of the robber barons of the time. Oh, and the police and military also got a full exception. Of course. For reference, $200 in 1934 dollars (when this was passed) is equivalent to $4,711.40 today. And for further perspective, a nice shotgun in 1935 would cost you around $40 in the currency of that time.
“Sure, boy, you can own that gun. All you have to do is file all this extra paperwork and pay us five times more than what it’s worth in taxes.”
Related fun fact: The original incarnation of the NFA was originally intended to apply to all handguns. Think about that one for a minute.
(Edit: This was meant as an addition, not a correction.)
A) That’s bad, theus poors (not trying to speak for you, but that includes me lol I’m poor af) deserve the right to SBRs, SBSs, suppressors, AOWs and IMO, FA, just as much as any rich bastard who can pay the fees.
And
B) As we can see from this very incident, taxing it does fuck all, murders can still happen even with those taxes, and by a poor without stamps at that. Even if we amended that tax to be the price of a Corolla today, I guarantee he didn’t even pay the $200 tax (if he did he’d have had a booster on the can lol), if you’re going to murder a dude on camera at 6am on a busy street in a city where suppressors are illegal you’re not gonna fill out a form 4.
Most school shooters, and probably hoodie guy, own their guns legally. Most other types of crime, like robbery, the guns used are stolen or illegal anyway.
Well, hoodie guy is dubious. It’s almost impossible to get a gun legally in NYC, upstate it is a bit easier depending on the county, but it’s still not super easy. 100% he wasn’t carrying it legally at least, but I highly suspect from watching the video that he’s using a poorly milled “ghost gun” (because he had to spank it into battery after he cleared a malfunction) which is illegal in NY, and a homemade suppressor without a Neilson device (because it wasn’t cycling the slide at all, causing those malfunctions,) which is illegal federally (well, kinda, but why Form 1 one of those?!)
As for school shooters, many do, but many steal them from parents as well. In either case “taxes” are not the answer, poor people deserve the right just as much as rich people, and they have just as big of a need for it (if not more, being that rich people can employ security and are targeted less often than you think).
Tbf that’s one of the ones they typically try to pass. One of the more popular ideas (outside of feature bans) is “tax the shit out of them.” In effect that means “stop the dirty poors from having them, but a rich guy who can pay the tax is fine.”
This was literally the basis of the National Firearms Act, which is a federal gun law we very much already have and have done for a long time. It was originally enacted in the 1930’s with the express purpose of preventing the
blackspoors from achieving arms parity with which to defend themselves fromwhitesthe rich, and had a specific focus on “concealable” arms which could conceivably be used to take out high profile political targets. Which is something that was at the forefront of every seedy politician’s mind in the era coming right out of Prohibition and leading into the Great Depression, I’m sure. Boy, that sounds eerily familiar.The NFA bans a wide swath of arms and arms adjacent things including short barreled rifles and shotguns, fully automatic guns, and silencers/suppressors.
Oh, wait. Did I say “banned?” It actually just slaps a mandatory $200 federal tax on them with a ton of paperwork, with failure to comply under penalty of the ATF kicking in your door and shooting your dog. Note that in the 1930’s $200 was an exorbitant amount of money that would be absolutely unattainable for the working classes simply to afford a shooty toy, but was easily within reach of the robber barons of the time. Oh, and the police and military also got a full exception. Of course. For reference, $200 in 1934 dollars (when this was passed) is equivalent to $4,711.40 today. And for further perspective, a nice shotgun in 1935 would cost you around $40 in the currency of that time.
“Sure, boy, you can own that gun. All you have to do is file all this extra paperwork and pay us five times more than what it’s worth in taxes.”
Related fun fact: The original incarnation of the NFA was originally intended to apply to all handguns. Think about that one for a minute.
(Edit: This was meant as an addition, not a correction.)
Yes, and basically what I’m saying is
A) That’s bad,
theus poors (not trying to speak for you, but that includes me lol I’m poor af) deserve the right to SBRs, SBSs, suppressors, AOWs and IMO, FA, just as much as any rich bastard who can pay the fees.And
B) As we can see from this very incident, taxing it does fuck all, murders can still happen even with those taxes, and by a poor without stamps at that. Even if we amended that tax to be the price of a Corolla today, I guarantee he didn’t even pay the $200 tax (if he did he’d have had a booster on the can lol), if you’re going to murder a dude on camera at 6am on a busy street in a city where suppressors are illegal you’re not gonna fill out a form 4.
Yeah, I’m pretty poor, too.
I ain’t got no suppressors, either. What a drag.
Same, shame.
Most school shooters, and probably hoodie guy, own their guns legally. Most other types of crime, like robbery, the guns used are stolen or illegal anyway.
Well, hoodie guy is dubious. It’s almost impossible to get a gun legally in NYC, upstate it is a bit easier depending on the county, but it’s still not super easy. 100% he wasn’t carrying it legally at least, but I highly suspect from watching the video that he’s using a poorly milled “ghost gun” (because he had to spank it into battery after he cleared a malfunction) which is illegal in NY, and a homemade suppressor without a Neilson device (because it wasn’t cycling the slide at all, causing those malfunctions,) which is illegal federally (well, kinda, but why Form 1 one of those?!)
As for school shooters, many do, but many steal them from parents as well. In either case “taxes” are not the answer, poor people deserve the right just as much as rich people, and they have just as big of a need for it (if not more, being that rich people can employ security and are targeted less often than you think).
“pay the tax” lol … nah they’ll just get tax breaks and find loopholes on top. paying taxes is for plebs.