• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    We also knew exactly who Trump is. We have a very long history.

    I particularly love stuff about him before he was in politics, like the Motley Fool podcast on how he duped public investors for his private company through pumping up real estate values. They went to his office, saw this weird array of gaudy decoration and oddly attractive employees, sat down with him, and saw through his lie. Then made the only short in their firm’s entire history… and it paid off.

    There’s no excuse of bias. You can’t blame any politicians. It’s just him. And while not perfect by any means, you have to squint hard to see Kamala in the same light.

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      1 month ago

      Why is the default argument from liberals always ‘but Trump?’ Harris would have been a shit candidate not worthy of being elected regardless of who her opponent was.

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        Harris was going to raise taxes on billionaires and corporations. Why the fuck would you NOT vote for that?

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          And if she said that she was going to give everybody rainbows and lollipops you would believe that you were going to get a rainbow and lollipop.

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            20 days ago

            False analogy. Clinton, Obama, and Biden – all 3 of the last Dem presidents – kept their promises to raise taxes on the wealthy and/or corporations.

            Realty matters.

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      1 month ago

      Right.

      But one thing we should also know is that running a bad candidate who is better than the only other option isn’t enough to decisively beat even the worst possible Republican.

      Voters should have all voted for Kamala even though they didn’t want her to be president due to her policies. That would have mitigated the damage.

      They didn’t do it in 2016 either, and Biden only squeaked thru because Trump was actively in office and Bernie stayed till the end to pull Biden left. If either of those didn’t happen, the strategy would be 0 out of 3.

      It’s clearly not an effective strategy compared to running a candidate who already agrees with Dem voters

      So rather than stomp our feet and being mad at the people we need in 2028, maybe spend the next four years bringing them back into the fold and running a candidate that people actually want to win the election?

      Like, we’ve tried stomping our feet for 8 years now since Hillary, do you think any of that has helped?

      Because to me, it looks like all it accomplishes is increasing donations from people who want Dems to lose, and turning dlteliable Dem voters into non-votets.

      Stop worrying about if you’re right.

      Start worrying about what can win 2028, and if that will actually translate to fixing shit