• tkw8@lemm.ee
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    27 days ago

    My racist/sexist/generally terrible uncle calls me liberal, brainwashed and woke, not open minded.

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      I don’t get why we don’t call the “anti-woke” crowd “the asleep.” It seems like if they want to treat becoming awakened as an insult, we should be reminding them that they’re the ones who have their eyes closed and are attempting to ignore all of history.

      The optimist in me believes that some day the majority of them will wake up, the same way the majority of Germans eventually denounced the nazi party.

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      They literally make “Antifa” out to be bad, lol. Like, sound it out: They’re “against fascism”. Shouldn’t everyone rational reject fascism…?

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        I certainly hope no one is against the base goal of being against fascist. However, I think the criticism towards Antifa is more due to their means of reaching that goal.

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          I meant more the position of being “antifa”. Isn’t the actual organization decentralized and unstructured, like Anonymous? That’s literally all I know about Antifa, and even that might be wrong…

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            Antifa isn’t an organization. Yeah back in Nazi Germany it was, but nowadays its just a movement. There is no organization, any group or person can take up the movement, symbolism, etc of antifascist action (antifa). It is genuinely a situation of if someone is “anti-antifa” then they are either stupid or a fascist.

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    Man, I’m not seeing any of those motherfuckers. They don’t warrant the time of day, let alone getting to disturb my peace. I’m just gonna make some good food and hang out with my mom and the dog and have a nice day.

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    The traditional way this was phrased was “bleeding heart liberal”. The implication being that they were so giving as to be gullible and not realistic.

    Nowadays the preferred insults are “commie” or “woke”. I don’t hear it directed at me much, due to particular family circumstances that forced them to accept my gay-married trans ass, but boy do I hear it about Democrats every year.

    (I know that Dems aren’t commie or even ‘woke’ most of the time, but to them it is a distinction without a difference. To them, those terms refer to anyone who thinks that people don’t deserve to die for the ‘crime’ of being homeless.)

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    Pretty much. My whole family was fairly left leaning once upon a time. However they have since fallen for the mass trump indoctrination.

    My mother who was once an elementary school teacher to some of the most under privileged children in tulsa, who lived for her job and only wanted a better future for her Hispanic and black students now wants those very children to be deported if illigeal cause she took the trump pill.

    My father who used to employ only Mexicans for his somewhat successful construction company, wants that cheap labor deported as they are " taking US citizens jobs" like what?

    The craziest part is my family is half Mexican, my grandma came from Mexico to the us in the 50s in search for a better life for her children. So my dad is half Mexican. Talk about some irony.

    My Mexican nana would be sad to see whom her children are blindly following

    Sorry for tge rant but sheesh, its gonna be a rough day

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      Tulsan here as well. I had a Harris sign in my yard for a couple of months for all the good it did. There were actually quite a few if them where I live in midtown (21st and Lewis). But this is the blueist part of town…

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    Yes.

    Or like my parents, before I stopped attending altogether, “Our ‘lost’ son is going to be there, we need to pray for his soul.”

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      I hope you surrounded yourself with other people who love you since then. Stay strong.

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    No they think “Oh goody! I get to start a fight and feed off my own rage and self righteousness and own the libs at the same time! And there will be pie!”

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    Of course not. They live for the outage and offense they cause. It’s like a validation for them that they’re on the right track. Like finding enemies in a video game, it indicates that it’s the path to follow. They don’t realize they’re the villain though.

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    One time as a kid I took a southern Baptist church trip to Central America. When I got back my racist uncle said “y’all look like a bunch of foreigners.” Mind you that at the time I was was blond enough to be a Hitler Youth poster boy, but heaven forbid my skin was brown from being in the sun. 🙄

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    I know this is a joke, but if this is genuinely how someone thinks, then it so self-absorbed and narrow minded to not be able to step out of your own mindset.

    The comment implies absolute good/evil and that people are knowingly acting evil. The people you don’t agree with do have consistent moral principles that they are working with (however misguided or skewed they may be). I can’t stand racist/sexist people either, but if you can’t see how these people are worried that “woke” people are destroying their view of society and threatening their morals, then you won’t really be able to engage them to change their minds. This entrenched thinking is why all discourse is now just shouting matches at each other.

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      There was a time when I was worried about changing people’s minds and trying to see things from their side. It’s not worth the effort any more, at least for me. They’re dug in and want to argue, but they aren’t open to changing their minds.

      I don’t feel like it’s my responsibility to tolerate their hatred to try to explain why they should care about people that aren’t like them. I’d rather spend time with the people that I feel safe around and know aren’t bigoted

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      when is this stupid “we need to sit down and ‘talk to nazis’ in order to change their minds” attitude going to finally fucking die?

      we’ve been way too fucking tolerant of that shit for way too many years, and thanks to that, we’re living in a fascist country now. excuse me, but fuck that shit.

      fuck trump, fuck everyone who voted for him, fuck everyone who voted third party, and fuck everyone who didn’t vote. the time for trying to “understand” and “engage” cultists who literally throw away any viewpoint they don’t like as “fake news” is long fucking past.

      this stupid bullshit is why we got trump the first time AND now.

      edit: the only reason biden won 2020 was because of trump’s absolute-worst-fucking-possible response to covid, which would have been fucking hilarious if so many innocent people didn’t have to die from it

    • carl_dungeon@lemmy.world
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      Nah, it’s sports team mentality. You can say any reasoned, logical, humanist argument you want, but people will never turn against their “team”.

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        That is verifiably wrong. Daryl Davies is a black man who has convinced dozens of members of the KKK to renounce their beliefs and their robes. You absolutely can convince people that their beliefs are wrong.

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    No. Generally, they think to themselves, “I really hope I don’t say anything that will offend any family members.” But then they comment on the “oriental rug” and get yelled at and called a problematic bigot and uninvited to any and all future family get togethers.

    The red hat wearing, racist, Nazi, “fuck your feelings” caricature that the internet has made out of anyone who is not a Democrat is just as wrong and hateful as the blue haired, gender fluid, “punch my Nazi family members in the face” caricature that the internet has made out of anyone who is not a Republican.

    You guys need to stop buying in to stereotypes!