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    20 days ago

    “calls for violence in any form against any living creature” are a violation of lemmy.world terms of service. Comments calling for or celebrating violence will be removed, and may result in additional moderation actions

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      Super disappointed mods can’t parse people not being surprised or feeling something was deserved as a consequence of their actions, and advocating the violence.

      My comment that got removed was “can’t imagine why this happened”, which neither calls for, nor celebrates violence, but expresses that the conditions leading to such an action, in our dystopian US are predictable, have happened before countless times in history all over the world.

      The inability to acknowledge the fault of the powerful actors and system that created such conditions and utter lack of consequences for the rich and powerful in the US are what caused such responses for an agreeably horrific act. The issue that won’t go away, on Lemmy or anywhere else, and oversimplifying the above to “advocating violence” is disingenuous if deliberate, and idiotic if accidental.

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        What’s crazy is they seem to be removing comments just mentioning that jury nullification is a thing…

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      Any living creature can’t be the standard. That’s just absurdly Broad. By this argument you can’t have cooking communities. In any form against any living creature? I can’t cut down a tree on this website apparently.

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      I used bleach on my countertops this morning killing millions of bacteria. Put me in Lemmy Jail.

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      Did you read this comment or apply any thought before you hit post? “Against any living thing” is so hilariously broad it makes me wonder if you’re just trolling.

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      There’s a distinction between ending evil and ending life. The former is worthy of celebration whether or not the latter overlaps with it.

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      Wish I would have known how over zealous .world moderation was gonna be when I signed up. Go take a nap for a couple days.

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        It depends on the community. For example, the Political Memes community of .world is incredibly dumb when it comes to moderation and I’ve been moderated for “misinformation” for saying that a party sending billions in support of genocide means that the party supports genocide, but that’s an instance of moderators trying to enforce their opinions through the moderation system. At least in this case it’s out of an abundance of caution since there’s such a stigma against violence and even messages simply celebrating it can be misconstrued as encouraging it.

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          Meh, they should grow a spine, people call for violence all day on truth social, twitter, etc.

          This whole ‘abundance of caution’ is due to decades of successful brainwashing and propaganda. How many avoidable deaths are the direct result of executive policy at healthcare, oil, law enforcement, etc. organizations?

          Should we censor celebrations or (hypothetical) calls for the deaths of Hitler, Mao, Andrew Jackson, etc?

          When does it become acceptable to fight back? When you’ve been conditioned to exercise an ‘abundance of caution’ the answer is never.

          I’m not calling for violent revolution here, nor a complete lack of moderation, I’m just noting that removing comments of a rightfully angry and frustrated community is weak as fuck.

          If you post a manifesto with calls to violence, sure, I can see that being removed, but a little festive comment celebrating the death of a deserving POS? GTFO.

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      Uncritical support for AIDS as the immune system is responsible for the deaths of millions of bacteria every day.

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      I completely understand the “calling for violence” part of the rules. The celebrating part is a bit much, though.

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      You’re just power tripping. I saw the comments. You are clearly incapable of discerning calls for violence or celebration from various other sentiments. It’s pathetic. This is some Reddit-type shit.

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        This is not a Nazi Bar problem. This is a mod being overly sensitive to people being happy about someone getting what they deserve after making millions of peoples lives harder. You trying to turn this into a non-violence issue is just pathetic.

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          making millions of peoples lives harder

          And literally killing some number themselves. Denial of coverage for treatments can and does lead to death in some cases.

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            Seriously, I will not mince words. This man was a mass murderer directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. If there is a hell, he is there right now. He killed more people with a pen than any serial killer in American history did with a knife or gun.

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        We have a justice system so that we don’t need to use vigilante violence. Make no mistake, this man was a mass murderer. He was personally responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. But because of our corrupt legal and justice system, he was able to get away with it.

        We no longer have any legal method of holding the wealthy and powerful to account for their crimes. The courts are crooked and the politicians bought and paid for. Again, we implemented courts and a justice system so that we didn’t have to use vigilante violence. In olden times, if someone killed your loved one, it was perfectly acceptable to kill them in revenge. We in time implemented a formal legal system to prevent this kind of retributive vigilante violence.

        Well, what do you think happens when you break that legal system so thoroughly that the wealthy can no longer be held to account? At that point, your society goes right back to the law of might makes right.

        It’s actually very similar to the violence that occurs between gangs. If you’re a drug dealing mafioso, and someone cheats you in a drug deal, you can’t turn to the courts for relief. So instead, you have to use violence.

        The people no longer have any real way of holding the wealthy responsible, even for literally murdering innocent people. We’re going to see a lot more such attacks in the future. And it will not end until we reinstate the old peace treaty that is our justice system.