• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    8 days ago

    Bro?

    Biden was surprisingly liberal in actual policy… the hard shift into shitty neoliberalism was mostly old Bill Clinton and then sealed into place by Obama. Biden is notably more liberal than either of those fucks.

    • Eldritch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      8 days ago

      Absolutely. There’s still plenty to criticize him on. But the need to build him into something uniquely bad is extremely puzzling. For his missteps with unions he was still far more involved and supportive of them than Clinton or Obama. He tried many times in many ways to actually give people student loan forgiveness as well. And succeeded a lot.

      Even his stance on israel. Wasn’t unique to him. Any president from last 40 to 50 years. They would have supported Israel just the same. This isn’t a justification for it. As widespread and institutional as our stance on Israel is. Even Bernie Sanders as president would have struggled to do much different. Though I would have liked to have seen someone struggle to do different. Rather than just go along with it as the United States has for nearly 100 years. We should have never been involved in the theft of Palestine.

      But these aren’t Biden things. He will be irrelevant and gone in a few weeks. All these issues will be here. As they’ve been for decades. I’d like to actually see actual realistic suggestions how to move forward and fix things. Including Democrats. Not just pyrrhic empty Biden blaming. We get it, Biden bad. All these things will be getting worse once he’s gone though. Not going away.

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        8 days ago

        I absolutely agree and especially about the focus on not letting Biden be a scapegoat. If it’d been President Pelosi or Wasserman-Schultz or Schumer we’d be worse off on every issue. We need to correct the course of the party and not let scapegoating let us play this cycle yet again.