Ah I see you work in my work places wage and bonus calculation department.
“We had a 2% reduction in profits this year guys, 😭”
“The company lost money?”
“What? Oh no! But we made 3 bn in profits last year and we only made 2.8bn this year… So to make up for the shortfall, we’ll be reducing 401k contributions.”
“…didn’t the CEO get a 200million bonus-”
“WE ALL NEED TO MAKE SACRIFICES!”
Every capitalist: You did great, and we know all the prior meetings talked about record profits, but we just can’t afford to give you a bonus. Soooorryyyyyyyyy.
our overhead is just over our head!
But the pizza party will be off the hook!
I am fine with the place settling for a bit. It would suck if this place was as big as other sites are overnight. I want to watch this place grow over time
Natural, healthy, positive growth! Not growth for growths sake
Yes! Enough of the “I’m doing my part meme” that isn’t even real content.
It is!
Would you like to know more?
It’s not but it drives the discussion. I feel that at this point, some participation is better than no participation at all
I disagree completely, but thanks for your take.
You’re welcome
I’m doing my part
This man needs more upvotes!
Natural, healthy, positive upvotes! No upvotes for upvotes sake
Yeah, my main problem so far has been finding communities actually worth following/joining/contributing to.
If suddenly tons of average people join, they won’t really find communities, they’ll deem that their analysis of Lemmy, and leave with tiny chances of a second chance. It’ll just boom and bust in it’s current state. Most people aren’t interested in starting or growing a small community.
Meanwhile, if we stay at this size for a while, communities may form/grow, and as people trickle in, they’ll grow bit by bit.
I, for one, am not going anywhere. ✊🏻
I’m interested in seeing how well these great open source apps for Lemmy scale as the user base and post/comment data grows.
The apps are already amazing and will not suffer issues of scale themselves because they run on users’ devices. The scaling issues will be in Lemmy server code and ActivityPub in general.
ActivityPub doesn’t seem very scalable IMHO. It works well if all instances are about the same size and communities are well-distributed. Right now a few servers like lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, and lemmy.ml are much larger than others. They host most of the popular communities as well. This creates an imbalance which ActivityPub doesn’t handle well.
I think Lemmy instances should be topic based. But that’d be confusing for people coming from centralized social media who are only trying to find a reliable starting place. So I really hope we reach a point of maturity and mainstream-ness of Fediverse that people feel comfortable with smaller theme-based instances.
My main gripe with ActivityPub is that the infrastructure basically replicates 1-to-1 across subscribed instances. It means that as lemmy grows, servers will require more and more storage to keep up. For now, it’s fine since we’re under a few TB of content on the platform.
If lemmy were to be as popular as reddit, we’d reach the dozens if not hundreds of TB of storage required. Not everyone has the money to build such a homelab or rent data center servers of that caliber.
ActivityPub in it’s current state is nothing but replicated centralization, not a full decentralized protocol. We’d probably need a different database system that handles cross region clustering and sharing to scale it up.
If you don’t mirror everything locally, you can lose data when other instances go down. Decentralization just has high data costs, take a look at git or bitcoin. I just hope ActivityPup learned something from Diaspora, where small instances couldn’t handle the amount traffic comming from big instances.
My point was that there is no need to replicate everything everywhere. If the data is replicated a cross 5 instances per region for instance, it’s enough for replication needs. If you self host lemmy and subscribes to large communities on your instance, you can quickly overload your server. We need activity pub to be more lightweight if we want smaller instances to thrive.
LOL this reminds me of the numerous news articles that kept saying how Mastodon wouldn’t scale and how it would never take off. The most ridiculous one: “Mastodon is crumbling”. (We’re over 13 million users right now.)
For me it still feels a lot more silent than in the old reddit world. Nonetheless I enjoy the content here more than I did in the end of using reddit 🤷♂️
It’ll take some time but before you know it, it’ll explode and then you’ll fondly reminisce about the good old days when things were quieter
RIP old Slashdot.
well bye
I honestly was worried about our growth maybe 3 weeks ago… It seemed there was a boom and then sort of an exhale after that initial rush in early June. However I’m subbed to about 130 communities. My feed is nice and busy where I couldn’t even chance to see all the content. I can look through my sub list (LemmyTools addon plug) and catch up on some comms I missed in my feed. It’s going great now as we are seeing steadily more upvoted posts (in the ks) now. Memes are off the charts. Tech and News seems to be hot. Im not super stitious well, maybe a little situous but I think things are going well and seeing a good base here form.
There will need to be some sort of stale/abandoned community cleanup or filter eventually though.
Reddit keeps implementing more ideas to piss off the communities. The growth will come
Totally, I actually feel we are already passed that concern. I am seeing a pretty established base forming now. I think we screw to a certain demographic but that is OK by me. I for one am tired of all tired of corporate social media crap. So I’ll be here or somewhere like it but lemmy is a very viable platform already
I remember the good old 4chan days when every 3rd post was about how “this is the cancer that is killing /b/” …
Which in hindsight was not wrong. It’s a husk of what it was. I fought with many a /b/tard in the great Tumblr wars. It was remnant of a more wild age, before the summer posters, before the psyops.
As an outsider, please take these helpful suggestions:
The logging-in process is messed up. For the longest time I couldn’t log into any of the mobile apps (even though on the desktop it worked fine). The error messages were mostly not helpful.
Even now, I still get error messages that ask me to pick a language for some reason. This is after I’ve already typed up a comment and I am trying to post it. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn’t, but you could see how it would be a PITA when on mobile and all you wanted to do was write a short response.
Still no real idea what “instances” are and no idea if I am missing out on entire subs because I am on .world. No clue. Do people on .world only see this? 🤷
The layout on the website is barely passable. The link to go see a comment that was posted for you is just in an awkward location. I’m almost never sure what sub a post is coming from because the name of the person, the language it is in, and some other stuff is all fairly indistinguishable. Like seriously, there has to be someone on the Lemmy team that has some kind of graphic design background who could pipe in and spice up the UI a little.
There are random hangouts for seemingly no reason. Is it because of how much the Lemmy population has exploded over the last few weeks or problems with a link or what? Some feedback would be super helpful.
Why so many subs (are they called subs here?) with zero content. Not even like old content… literally go there and nothing is posted. At all. That is not conducive to growing a sub. If there are squatters who came here and loaded up on a bunch of sub names just to say they have them, and are not doing anything with those subs, then take the name back. No one is going to post a comment to a sub with zero threads. This is only hurting the community.
Still no real idea what “instances” are and no idea if I am missing out on entire subs because I am on .world. No clue. Do people on .world only see this?
‘Communities’ are akin to subreddits. ‘Instances’ are akin to reddit allowing other people to spin up their own version of reddit with their own ruleset, but still under the reddit umbrella; with other reddit-users being able to access other reddits. But, those ‘other reddits’ might decide hey we don’t like clowns so we are blocking clown reddit; clown reddit can no longer access the other reddits, without directly registering on them.
If you want to expand your lemmy experience, when you fire up lemmy.world, there is a setting at the top which defaults to subscribed (iirc), change this to ‘All’ and it will show posts from all other instances that aren’t defederated.
Thanks probably the best explanation I’ve ever gotten. Thanks for that.
Also, you can see what instances lemmy.world blocks/federates by going to lemmy.world/instances . You can check if an instance blocks/federates lemmy.world by going to thatinstance.ml/instances
There are a few instances that try to avoid defederating except as a last resort. vlemmy.net was one but that went offline unceremoniously last week.
Admittedly the language thing is the most confusing thing for new users. Just leave it at undetermined.
But there is no place to change it. And when you are trying to post, you’re not sure what to do. If you cancel, you lose what you wrote (obviously can save to clipboard), but even then in the app, I haven’t seen a place to change the language even if I wanted to. It’s one of those quirks that can turn lots of people off and want to go back to Reddit.
It’s in your settings. If you’re using an app that may be the problem. For sure, the first day or two I was confused by it. I have mine set to undetermined & English. The list is kind of odd how to select them. It’s been set it and forget it. Definitely a barrier to entry because it doesn’t really have an obvious purpose when onboarding.
I use lemmy.world and wefwef on mobile, none of these problems
Android or Apple?
iOS
as instances get overcrowded site slows which drives traffic to other instances. I could care less about collecting old posts. travel light, have fun
Commenting so I have commented in July.
Nice July comment. Here’s my July comment.
First post please ignore
Test post, please ignore.
Roger that
July comments incoming
July
july
July
July
July
same, may as well make my first comment here
honestly, even i went off of lemmy for a bit, not because i dont like lemmy, but because every time i reloaded the page, it would sign me out, and i couldn’t save any settings, it seems to be happening across most lemmy instances right now
That happened due to the emoji vulnerability. One mitigation step admins had to take is rotate JWT secrets, which essentially deauthenticated everyone’s sessions.
Lemmy-UI and some 3rd party applications didn’t know how to react to that, as this is not an official Lemmy feature (it required a database query), so they stayed in that limbo state you’re describing here.
Just log out and back in. If the problem persists, delete the cookie for your instance and try again.
You should clear your browser data and log back in.
the memes communities are alive, that’s all that matters
Lemmy would become the birth center of the next-Gen memes
Buy the dip!!!
This is a highly regarded comment.
💎🙌
We like the stock!
I’m new here and I still have my doubts. Relatively tech savvy, but it was a bit of a chore getting signed up for instances.
That, and almost none of the communities I was at before exist here. I’m not an r/all or news type of person.
you signed up for more than one?! hmmmmmmmm didn’t think it was necessary, I am only on lemm.ee
“Relatively tech savvy” 😆
Haha! Such dig! “Instances make total sense to the average user” that you crypto bro?
Average use isn’t relatively tech savvy. Either way, 5 minute read about instances would make it clear.
What do you want? Get the fuck off my nuts and that high horse reddit rube. Nobody cares about your “superior knowledge”.
Beans are killing lemmy stop beansss
