Tinkering is all fun and games, until it’s 4 am, your vision is blurry, and thinking straight becomes a non-option, or perhaps you just get overly confident, type something and press enter before considering the consequences of the command you’re about to execute… And then all you have is a kernel panic and one thought bouncing in your head: “damn, what did I expect to happen?”.
Off the top of my head I remember 2 of those. Both happened a while ago, so I don’t remember all the details, unfortunately.
For the warmup, removing PAM. I was trying to convert my artix install to a regular arch without reinstalling everything. Should be kinda simple: change repos, install systemd, uninstall dinit and it’s units, profit. Yet after doing just that I was left with some PAM errors… So, I Rdd
-ed libpam instead of just using --overwrite
. Needless to say, I had to search for live usb yet again.
And the one at least I find quite funny. After about a year of using arch I was considering myself a confident enough user, and it so happened that I wanted to install smth that was packaged for debian. A reasonable person would, perhaps, write a pkgbuild that would unpack the .deb and install it’s contents properly along with all the necessary dependencies. But not me, I installed dpkg. The package refused to either work or install complaining that the version of glibc was incorrect… So, I installed glibc from Debian’s repos. After a few seconds my poor PC probably spent staring in disbelief at the sheer stupidity of the meatbag behind the keyboard, I was met with a reboot, a kernel panic, and a need to find another PC to flash an archiso to a flash drive ('cause ofc I didn’t have one at the time).
Anyways, what are your stories?
source ~/.bash_history
Dear god
That’s the scariest horror story in 2 words I’ve seen so far
I’m genuinely having a chuckle at how shocked people are at my submission, made my day xD
I mean, it’s simple, elegant, and destructive AF given the right circumstances. Basically a chaos grenade we didn’t realize existed
And also a very understandable mistake, to boot.
Can a linux noob get an explanation of this?
source
is a bash shell built-in command that executes the content of the file passed as argument, in the current shell.~/.bash_history
contains all the commands you ever executed in bash (the default shell in most Linux systems)To add on to this explanation, you generally use
source ~/.bashrc
to reload your shell whenever you want to make changes to your user config. Tab completion weakens the barrier to destruction significantly (esp. in my case)Until you use a system that doesn’t have a ~/.bashrc , and now your tab completion helpfully expands “~/.ba[TAB]” to “~/.bash_history” .
That’s why I like fish, which shows matching commands you executed, so that you can easily redo them.
Ooh can I get an equivalent for zsh? :D
Thanks for the explanation
New fear unlocked
Reminded me of this: https://github.com/jtroo/kanata/issues/595
Same concept, different granularity!
i never thought i had a nuke that i can launch using one command
Oh no. That fits the bill perfectly lol.
“Oh My…” thought in a George Takei voice
Jesus Christ. It would be a good idea to format that file to have an
exit
as first line to avoid this
Many many years ago I wanted to clean up my freshly installed Slackware system by removing old files.
find / -mtime +30 -exec rm -f {};
Bad idea.
sudo rm -f /lib /usr/share/backup/blah blah.tar.gz
Note the space.
Oh man, you really owned those libs
You need to use chown if you want to own the libs
Note the past tense
Might be recoverable if you had a live distro ready. Otherwise, o7.
Oh no, this was back in the days when we loaded our distros by way of a stack of floppy disks.
Top tip, if tired, replace the
rm -f
part of the command with something innocuous for a first run. Actually, is better to do this mistake once so that the two important lessons are learned… Backup (obviously, in your case it was backups, but the point still stands) and double check your command if it has potential for destruction 👍spaces in rm are a classic one, they’re even mentioned in the Unix-haters handbook
Not me, but one I saw… dude used chmod to lock down permissions across the board… including root… including the chmod command.
“What do I do?”
🤔
“Re-install?”
You could boot on an USB, mount the filesystem and change the permissions. But if the dude changed a whole lot of permissions, reinstalling might be the smart thing to do…
Changed it all to 000. ಠ_ಠ
@jordanlund @fl42v I *think* this one could be recoverable if they had a terminal still active by using the dynamic loader to call chmod — or by booting from a liveCD and chmodding from there.
That’d likely get you to a ‘working’ state quickly, but it’d take forever to get back to a ‘sane’ state with correct permissions on everything.
Exactly. There’s no way to even know what the previous permissions were for everything.
They were TRYING to recursively change permissions in a single directory, accidentally hit the whole system. :(
Yeah, a very unfortunate one: probably, the most painful to recover from. I’d just reinstall, honesty 😅 At least with mine I could simply add the necessary stuff from chroot or pacstrap and not spend a metric ton of time tracking all the files with incorrect permissions
There’s got to be other tools though that could change the file permissions on chmod, right? Though I suppose you’d need permission to use them and/or download them.
You can dump the permissions from the working system and restore them. Quite useful when working with archives that don’t support those attributes or when you run random stuff from the web 😁
Many distros offer a automated file/directory ownership restore feature on their liveOS
I can’t even remember how I did this, but overwriting the partition table on the main production server at our small startup (back when “the server” would usually live on the premises of the startup). I remember my boss starting to hyperventilate from panic while I reconstructed it from memory / notes, and all the filesystems came back and he calmed down.
Same job, they gave me a little embedded-systems unit for me to use to build a prototype on. I hooked it up, nothing worked. I brought it back to them.
Hey, this one doesn’t work.
Huh… that’s weird, it was working before. Did you break it?
I don’t think so. Can I have one that works?
They literally told me, as they were handing me the second one: Okay, here’s another one. Don’t break it.
I figured it out literally seconds after breaking the second one… I was hooking it up to 12 volts of power when it needed 5. Second dead computer. Explaining that and that I needed a third one now was fun.
Had something similar several years ago: prototype stopped working for some reason, one of the hardware engineers and I were troubleshooting on a second prototype, and we exploded a large capacitor… The rest of the team were not amused that we destroyed 2 out of 3 working prototypes within 10 minutes.
I thoroughly backup up my slow nvme before installing a new faster one. I actually didn’t even want to reuse the installation, just the files at /home.
So I mounted it at /mnt/backupnvme0n1, 2, etc and rsynced
The first few dry runs showed a lot of data was redundant, so I geniously thought “wow I should delete some of these”. And that’s when I did a classic sudo rm -rf in the /mnt root folder instead of /mnt/dirthathadthoseredundantfiles
Tried to convert Ubuntu to Debian by replacing the repos in sources.list and apt dist-upgrading. 💣 Teenagers…
I thought about trying something like this the other day and quickly reconsidered
I’m as nerdy as they come, but… I don’t think you did teenage rebellion right.
One that I can remember many years ago, classic trying to do something on a flash drive and
dd
my main hdd instead.Funny thing, since this was a 5400rpm and noticed relatively quick (say 1-2 minutes), I could ctrl-c the dd, make a backup of most of my personal files (being very careful not to reboot) and after that I could safely reformat and reinstall.
To this day it amazes me how linux managed to not crash with a half broken root file system (I mean, sure, things were crashing right and left, but given the situation, having enough to back up most things was like magic)
Many years ago I was dual booting Linux and Windows XP. I was having issues with the Linux install, and decided to just reinstall. It wasn’t giving me the option to reinstall fresh, only to modify the existing install.
So I had the bright idea to just rm -rf /
Surely it’ll let me do a fresh Linux install then.
Immediately after hitting enter I realized that my Windows partitions would be mounted. I did clearly the only sensible thing and pulled the plug.
I think I recovered all of my files. Kind of. I only lost all the file paths and file names. There was plenty to recover if I just sorted though 00000000.file, 00000001.file, 00000002.file, etc. Was 00000004.file going to be a Word document or a binary from system32 directory? Your guess is as good as mine!
CTRL-C-ing apt because it looked stuck for more than 10 minutes. I don’t recommend doing it.
Man, gotta love
apt
sometimesapt is great, but yeah, if it’s gonna fail, let it fail on its own.
Haven’t used
apt
in a while, is it not atomic? What happens if you mess with it?I don’t think it is, if it doesn’t run its course on its own, you’re screwed. It’s Debian so you can recover, but, at least for me, it was painful.
First, the classical typo in a bash script:
set FOLDER=/some/folder
rm -rf ${FODLER}/
which is why I like to add a set -u at the begining of a script.
The second one is not with a Linux box but a mainframe running AIX:
If on Linux killall java kills all java processes, on AIX it just ignore the arguments and kill all processes that the user can kill. Adios the CICS region 😬 (on the test env. thankfully)
If on Linux killall java kills all java processes, on AIX it just ignore the arguments and kill all processes that the user can kill.
jfc, is ignoring arguments the intended behavior?
On a real UNIX (not only AiX) killall is part of the shutdown process - it gets called by init at that stage when you want to kill everything left before reboot/shutdown.
Linux is pretty unique in using that for something else.
I didn’t know that, good to know.
They could have send a SIGTERM by default instead of a SIGKILL. I would not have corrupt everything 😅
killall typically sends SIGTERM by default. It accepts a single argument, the signal to send - so shutdown would call it once with SIGTERM, then with SIGKILL. killall is not meant to to be called interactively - which worked fine, until people who had their first contact with UNIX like systems on Linux started getting access to traditional UNIX systems.
It used to be common to discourage new Linux users from using killall interactively for exactly that reason. Just checked, there’s even a warning about that in the killall manpage on Linux.
Yes: same command name, two different semantics:
Cross-Unix scripting is fun ☺️
after reading what “set -u” does, bro this should be default behavior, wtf?
Wow, the last one is quite unexpected. What a useful command
stupid was when I wanted to test Linux Mint on an external SSD, and didn’t check that the bootloader wasn’t going to overwrite my internal drive’s.
So anyway I’m running Linux Mint now.
That’s an interesting way to distro hop for sure
It’s a fine distribution. I have it on my desktop and at least one laptop. But yes, a weird way to decide to distro hop 🤣
I was on Manjaro, and I didn’t want to put the effort in for a third time just to break it again. While I prefer arch based distros, I’ve been liking Mint since I can almost use it without a terminal like manjaro.
I uninstalled Python.
I was playing around with Pygame of all things, and it wasn’t behaving as the (apparently out of date) documentation was saying it should, so I figured I’d just uninstall and reinstall Python.
EVERYTHING borked. APT wouldn’t even work.
Oh that’s a good one. It feels like it should be doable and then… BAM
Ha! Came to say this too!
I tried to uninstall Python because I was just trying to minimize junk on my computer and I usually code in Bash, Node or Java.
Years ago I was dual-booting with Ubuntu just to try out whatever this Linux thing was that all the nerds were talking about. Liked it and played around with it, but for whatever reason I wanted to go back to just Windows, I needed the space I had partitioned off or something, can’t remember why. So I just uninstalled or deleted the bootloader somehow (maybe I just deleted the Linux partition and expected the space to clear up like normal).
Go to restart the computer… oh shit. Ohshotohshitohshitohshit.
Tinkering is all fun and games, until it’s 4 am, your vision is blurry, and thinking straight becomes a non-option, or perhaps you just get overly confident, type something and press enter before considering the consequences of the command you’re about to execute… And then all you have is a kernel panic and one thought bouncing in your head: “damn, what did I expect to happen?”.
Nah, that’s when the fun really starts! ;)
The package refused to either work or install complaining that the version of glibc was incorrect… So, I installed glibc from Debian’s repos.
:D That one is a classic. Most distributions don’t include packagers from other distros because 99% of the time it’s a bad idea. But with Arch you can do whatever you want, of course
My two things:
- I’ve heard about some new coreutils (rm, cp, cat… this time the name really fits the contents :D) and I decided to test it out. Of course it was conflicting with my current coreutils package and I couldn’t just replace it because deleting the old package would break requirements. So without thinking I forced the package manager to delete it “I’ll install a new one in just a second”. Turns out it’s hard to install a package without cp, etc :D
- I don’t remember what I was doing but I overwrote the first bytes of hdd. Meaning my partition table disappeared. Nothing could be mounted, no partitions found. Seemingly a brick.
Turns out, if you run a rescue iso, ask it to try and recognize partitions and recreate the table without formatting, Linux will come back to life as if nothing happened
Nah, that’s when the fun really starts! ;)
Well, on the upside, it definitely works better than coffee or energy drinks :D
Also, nice save with the last one!
Funny, that’s when I give up for the night and go to sleep
Deleted my entire efi partition while trying to install some grub themes.
And then my backup didn’t work when I tried to restore it.
I have pretty colours now though, so it was all worth it :)
Been there, done that. But I haven’t had any problems once I switched to
systemd-boot
🤷😁