This is the second megathread for discussion regarding the crisis.
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I’ll just say it.
The state of Israel is basically the modern Nazi Germany.
I want Israel to exist, but not by genociding an entire ethnic group from the land. This is fucked up, and fuck anyone defending these actions.
Published by the IDF about six hours ago on YouTube: Inside a Hamas Terrorist Tunnel Under Rantisi Hospital in Gaza
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Gaza’s Christian community faces ‘threat of extinction’ amid Israel war.
Israel’s assault on Gaza could spell the end of the Christian community’s long history in the enclave.
Statement by Hamas’ Izzat Al-Rishq;
"Regarding what the spokesman for the terrorist enemy army said about the arrival of prisoners of the occupation to Al-Shifa Hospital, we said early on that the resistance transferred many prisoners of the occupation to hospitals to receive treatment and undergo surgical operations, especially after some of them were injured as a result of the occupation’s aircraft bombing them.
We risked our fighters to guarantee the injured prisoners the best treatment. Possible in hospitals in the Gaza Strip.
We have published many pictures about this; Now their army spokesman presents it as if they have discovered something great.
What the spokesman for the occupation army says completely condemns them. These are points that are recorded for us and not for us.
Taking care of the prisoners, treating them, and giving them possible medical care is a point for us and not for us."
Anxious, optimistic: Families of female Palestinian prisoners await release
‘Can regain our soul’: Relief and fear in Gaza ahead of Israel truce
Israel releases Palestinian women and children prisoners under Hamas deal
Photos: Palestinians released from prison reunite with loved ones
Family celebrates return of freed Palestinian prisoner Marah Bakeer
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39 Palestinian women and children were sent home
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I am going to use this thread to make a continuation of what I’ve posted in the first megathread where I shared a plethora of related links that share insight on the nature of this conflict.
Reports
#Nakba
Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs
Classified Docs Reveal Massacres of Palestinians in '48 – and What Israeli Leaders Knew
‘I Saw Fit to Remove Her From the World’
Zionist Militia’s Efforts to Recruit Nazis in Fight Against the British Are Revealed
#Recent Events
Using an Attack Dog, Israeli Women Soldiers Forced Palestinian Women to Undress
Cigarette Burns, Beatings, Attempted Sexual Assault: Settlers and Soldiers Abused Palestinians
Israeli Settler Documented Shooting Palestinian at Point-blank in the West Bank
Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Hundreds Involved in Attacking Arabs and Leftists, but Israel Police Arrest Only Four
Far-right Israeli Knesset Member Zvi Sukkot to Head Subcommittee on the West Bank
Perspectives
#Videos
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
^ Here’s an interview regarding recent events.
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
^At 1:43:50, Finklestein asserts that Israel would bomb a residential area, wait for people to come out and call an ambulance, and then bomb the ambulance.
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
^At 00:24:15, Ali asserts that Israel is willing to shoot their own civilians as evidenced by the Hannibal Directive, verifiable events, and testimonies such as Yasmin Porat’s where the IDF was shooting indiscriminately and even fired tank shells into Israeli homes.
#Articles
How colonizers weaponize rape: reflections from the Palestinian case
Opinion | Dying in Southern Gaza: ‘I Want to Go Home. At Least I’ll Die After Drinking Fresh Water’
Opinion | Amid the Mourning, Israel’s Settlement Enterprise Celebrates a Great Victory
Testimonials
Israeli Soldier’s Explosive Tell-All: “Palestinians are right to resist” - Former IDF soldier talks about how he realized that his actions were perpetuating apartheid, and that Palestinians were right to resist through any means.
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant ^[There is a whole-ass documentary for those interested.
Breaking the Silence - Israeli NGO where IDF veterans testify their experiences. Some examples:
If you find any other notable background information, feel free to share.
They migrated from North Arabia and took Jewish land every time the Jews were forcefully removed by a long line of oppressors. Then, when every Arab country started kicking out Jews, thy had nowhere to go but their homeland. When they arrived in the early 40’s en masse, the Palestinian leader met with Hitler to see about exterminating them. You got the colonizer/colonized dynamic backwards. This is what happens when you get your info from Facebook.
I saw this YouTube comment where people were arguing whether the Palestinians or Jewish people were there first. Does anyone know how accurate this comment is?
Seems like baseless rhetoric to justify the ongoing colonization and atrocities of the past century.
First, Arabs and Hebrews both have ancestry dating to the Levant back in the bronze age. Many of the Jews back then would have descendents that would later convert to Christianity and Islam.
Second, up until the colonial era, when the Jews were being persecuted by European nations, they sought refuge under Arab and Muslim rule. One notable example would be the Muslim Sultan, Salah ad-Din, allowing Jews to resettle in Jerusalem after the European Crusaders brutally kicked them out. Another example would be the treatment of Jews under the Ottoman Empire.
Third, even if all of this was not true, that does not justify the ongoing oppression, atrocities, ethnic cleansing, genocide of the indigenous people for the past 75 years, nor does it change who is and isn’t a colonizer and the colonized. This video gives a good explanation on why.
Thanks! You seemed very informed about the conflict so yours felt like a good comment to ask that question under, which had been on my mind since I saw it under an old Abby Martin video of her interviews with Israelis. That video looks like it will probably take some time to watch but it gives me a place to start.
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This video gives a good explanation on why.
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Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
Israeli Soldier’s Explosive Tell-All: “Palestinians are right to resist”
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant
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Thank you for this. Very helpful.
This Interview is worthwile. For everyone who hasn’t succumbed to the war on their mind and soul, as the interviewee Yuval Noah Harari phrased it:
[https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=9qaxYQqmzIg](Hamas and Gaza | A Liberal Israeli’s View - Yuval Noah Harari | The Rest Is Politics)
Here is the view of the “other side” (PLO not Hamas therefore the " ")
[https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=AtsTsCFxrNI](The View from Gaza | Palestinian Ambassador to the UK - Husam Zomlot | The Rest Is Politics)