FDA says 561 deaths tied to recalled Philips sleep apnea machines::Update from the Food and Drug Agency comes days after Philips said it would stop selling the devices in the U.S.

  • le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    It’s weird they only stop selling them now, it’s been at least a year in France we know it kills people. I believe there is also a trial.

    Why would Phillips remove them in France but keep selling them in the usa ?

    Edit: my bad, it’s been 2 years we know it gives cancer.

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        11 months ago

        Greed and lack of empathy, not capitalism.

        But also they somehow thought they could get away with it in the usa when they declared themselves 2 years ago in France that the foam in their device gives cancer. I really can’t understand the logic, usa is the country of trial and lawyers, they knew they would get sued at some point.

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          Greed and lack of empathy

          That’s what keeps capitalism humming along. It’s why a few people own most of everything and the “lucky” Americans will be forced to work until they die. What point were you trying to make when you attempted to correct them by saying that’s not capitalism?

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            11 months ago

            Because capitalism basic isn’t greed and lack of empathy, I could choose to invest my capital into nearby companies employing homeless people for instance. That would be capitalism.

            I know lemmy population is mostly very left politically but these kind of «  good socialism against bad capitalism » are nonsense and borderline ridiculous. I’m seriously wondering if there is a mob of edgy teenager promoting their political vision on every thread because it always comes down to « uh bad capitalism » every time I look into comments.

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              11 months ago

              You can’t fix the problems caused by capitalism with capitalism. Those homeless people employed by that beautiful company in your made up example don’t have a home because companies and the governments they write the laws for value profit over human life. Homelessness is overwhelmingly a mentally health issue which becomes an addiction issue, but here in the US all health care, much less mental health care, is a for-profit venture. And the open market that you seem to respect so much has made renting and home ownership unattainable for countless millions.

              You sound like everyone else who believes everything they learned in econ 101, that capitalism rights itself because it’s in people’s best interests to do so. You’re out of touch with the reality of so many peoples lives, and you only emphasized it with your fantasy about “good capitalism.” You can blame all of Lemmy or all the “brainwashed” people who tell you how far your perception of reality is skewed, but I hope you can continue learning about what life is like for people who don’t have your privilege or luck and are moved to reconsider your stance.

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                11 months ago

                The thing is I’m not saying capitalism is good neither, it sure isn’t looking great in USA. I’m saying it is what people end up doing with it and not everything can be blamed on it.

                We’ll just agree to disagree.

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        11 months ago

        Be happy, you helped make some people at Phillip richer.

        In all seriousness, Phillip itself admitted the foam in their device can make headache, give toxicity and cancer. I’ve not been able to read the official declaration, only news report but if I was you I would check that because when the company itself admit it can give cancer, you know it’s bad.