• blakeus12 [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    East Germany was actually solid, read the Triumph of Evil. West Germany was worse, to be fully honest and would have been just as poor without the Imperial Core banding together to build it back up.

    The USSR had queer rights at the beginning of the revolution and after Stalin took over anti-lgbt laws were rarely enforced

    What’s wrong with Vietnam?

    The DPRK isn’t perfect but i can guarantee to you 99% of the things you’ve heard about it are false. Did you know with a North Korean passport you can go to China? NATO prevents expats from North Korea from being accepted to work elsewhere. the “13 haircuts” myth was started from a barber’s hairstyle suggestion board.

    Just because all of your knowledge about socialist movements come from western sources doesn’t make knowledgeable people “terminally on discord” or a “bullied dude.” educate yourself.

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      Okay, so I read up more about homosexuality in the Soviet Union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_LGBT_rights#Soviet_Union From the looks of it, it was legally quite open during Lenin, but progressively got worse with time. I don’t think we even need to talk about modern Russia’s position on it. Let’s look at China. Why can’t same sex families adopt children?

      In case of Vietnam, again… let’s look at suppression of freedom of speech. Why isn’t the press free?

      The DPRK isn’t perfect… Omg wtf are you talking about? Why then aren’t they allowed access to the internet? Why are they still stuck in the 70s? Why aren’t North Koreans allowed to emigrate to South Korea? Why is the Kim family in power for so long and uncontested? When was the last North Korean election? Who was the prime contender? Why is some soul crushing music played every morning in Pyongyang? Or are the videos of that western propaganda too? The DPRK is literally the most dystopian place on the face of this planet.

      knowledgeable people Define “knowledgeable people”… Sure, western propaganda is definitely a thing. So is Chinese/Russian propaganda. Again… I’m not defending the west anywhere here. All I’m doing is refusing to idolize the socialist governments of the past and the present like the USSR. When I say I want a “socialist future”, I do not mean that I want the Soviet Union. What I want is something that is very very different than that nightmare.

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        Why aren’t they allowed to access the internet?

        You think one of the most sanctioned countries in history that’s been spending years and years trying to build cities and roads, you think they’d have time/infrastructure to bring all of their citizens WiFi? Do you know even half of what goes into making an internet network, let alone without the support of other nations?

        Why are they still stuck in the 70’s?

        What do you mean by this? If you mean technology wise, see above.

        Why aren’t North Koreans allowed to emigrate to South Korea?

        United Nations Security Council 2397. Read it.

        Why is the Kim family in power for so long uncontested? When was the last North Korean election? Who was the prime contender?

        Google “Juche.”

        Why is some soul crushing music played every morning in Pyongyang?

        What does this even mean, link a video to it, I am genuinely curious as to what this is even referencing.

        What I mean by “knowledgeable people” is people who can see past the western propaganda to take a critical look at past socialist experiments. You, clearly, still can’t see past things at surface value. Everything is black and white to you. Why can’t you look at history, current dynamics, sanctions, foreign pressure, etc, etc. Instead, you go to flinging petty insults at people whose side you should be on! You say you want something that is very very different than the soviet union? Then, I’m afraid you don’t want socialism.