• OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Not that I’m pro one side or the other, but what should be done when hamas tells civilians to stay, and then hides behind them? That leaves hamas alive to stage another attack on… civilians.

        Like, I get that there should have been a better solution than what was done after ww2, but we can’t go back in time and the Israelis aren’t leaving.

        So… what? Hamas doesn’t seem to care that their avilians die, and actively use them as shielding so they can kill more Israelis. It’s fucked.

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          1 year ago

          This “human shield” propaganda is so biased. By Israel’s extremely broad definition, every Palestinian is a human shield.

          If you were to apply this sick “human shield” logic to both sides, most of the innocent civilians killed by Hamas on Oct 7th would be acceptable military targets.

          The IDF has military infrastructure near schools, malls, and hospitals. Why are they hiding behind human shields?

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      1 year ago

      If I’m going to fund at least one side it sure isn’t going to be the terrorists

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          No, we can condemn both sides without calling it all terrorism. That’s just plain stupid. Terrorism is a specific tactic and just because you don’t like what a conventional military is doing doesn’t make it terrorism. It’s worthwhile to maintain our definitions.

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            the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims

            Open season on hospitals, refugee camps and journalists seems it’s fits.

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            Do you not think the innocent Palestinians are terrified?

            Justify the killing of innocent people by saying they killed one man makes you no better than the terrorists that started this latest conflict.

            Before you inevitably bring up that well Hamas are the ruling power, therefore the people must support them. Remember that the vast majority of people weren’t even alive when Hamas took power, and even then it was a narrow win.

            I find you abhorrent for trying to defend any kind of terrorism, even if you believe in the cause. No life is worth more than any other, you sick fucks.

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              The issue is that hamas purposely is using their civilians to shield themselves. Isreal can only do so much to try and hit only hamas members, but war isn’t that clean, no matter how much we wish it was. Yup, lots of evil all around, and there are some sick fucks in the IDF. But they’re not using their own civilians and shields. Like, forcing them to stay in place so they’re assured to die.

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              That specific ambulance was taken from the people of Gaza by hamas. Not only did hamas use it for transporting their terrorists they also robbed the people of gaza of said ambulance

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                1 year ago

                If a killer hides in your house, is it right for the whole house to be bombed? Or are you now a terrorist by virtue of proximity?

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                  If there’s a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away?