Tesla Vision fails as owners complain of Model 3 cameras fogging up in cold weather::A number of Tesla owners have taken to Reddit after their front cameras fogged up and stopped working in cold weather, leaving several features, including the US$10,000 FSD Beta, inoperable. Tesla has declined to assist to these customers, despite many of their vehicles being covered under warranty.

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      Radar. Only a small handful of cars have LIDAR. But your point still stands. Outside of Elon being a humongous douche and completely unpredictable, the lack of sensors is the major reason for not wanting a Tesla.

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      The driving assist features of my Honda CR-V also stop working whenever there’s snow or ice on the front of the car. Bad design for cold climates is not just a Tesla issue.

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        You shouldn’t be out of park while there’s snow or ice on your vehicle. Clean off your fucking vehicles.

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      His argument makes sense. Human vision is not too different from just a camera. I see the argument for lidar but it can also be a bit more expensive to accomplish the same task. I’m open to listening to your argument as to why lidar technology would be a better path for self driving cars.

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    Camera fogging has been an issue since at least 2019… Tesla forums usually have threads from new owners surprised by this each year…

    It was 100% predictable that ‘vision only’ would fail in these circumstances.

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    What irks me about this is I own an ev (not a Tesla obviously fiat 500e) and I slog/bash that thing through mud/snow/rain/several inches of water on the regular and even do what id consider rally driving with it at times and it’s fine. You know why? Because this was always a Tesla engineering failure and not an ev failure. But it sucks because people will think ev= unable to get wet which just is not true.

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        I heard of so many gaps in the bodywork, fogging up of the headlights or even the interior, stiff like that. It seems like there is a huge range of quality, even with the same model.

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          Some of that (not all) is anti EV propaganda, both funded by competitors or exaggerations and sometimes outright fabrication by people who (justifiably) dislike Musk.

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        The quality control is seemingly nonexistent though. The sucker that had theirs kick the bucket after getting rained on probably doesn’t care how well the core features work.

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            and submerge the battery.

            So why wouldn’t the battery be sealed? Why is this a mode of failure that you believe is somehow acceptable? Short of the car going the route of a particular 500k P1… Why wouldn’t we expect the batteries to be sealed if they’re that sensitive to water ingress?

            You realize that outside has a lot of water? And it’s pretty normal for some of that to get on the underside of your vehicle… Why wouldn’t tesla as a car design/manufacturer account for that and take reasonable precaution to stop water ingress on the battery? You even hear of an ICE car doing this short of driving into a lake?

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    Can confirm it’s terrible all around. FSD is horrendous. It also has problems in bright sun and rain.

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      Why do people still buy Teslas? Serious question

      Edit - great responses everyone. It was a genuine question & I appreciate the candor

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    So, the only way to have anything covered under warranty is to never have your Tesla leave the indoor track which is temp/humidity controlled.

    Oh how far we’ve advanced.

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      No point in doing warranty work when you don’t have a fix for the problem, this is what happens when you buy hard goods from a manufacturer that runs itself like a software company.