• darcy@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    haskell: “you submitted your math work instead of an essay”

    javascript: “this is awful, but at least i can read it anywhere i like”

    lisp: “it is not grammatically correct to nest brackets so much”

    lua: “your vocabulary is too limited and you have the writing skills of a child”

    rust: “omg. your essay is fast, safe, and perfect in every way! A+”

    css: “this is beautiful, but it doesnt say anything”

      • 30p87@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Ha, such a loser. Real programmers use C.ԥ[��\�q��r��8-߿�ʱT�xd]�UG���S;���v�o������ՠ��N�iYts~fv���@ֿ��Qj�\�Q��“�$�:� �����0��y��G�6�K!{Ȯ������Z�n�˭s�\��ڣ�:J��1���e�k=�${�Z�3�k67D�����K���(�P.��v�0��a�����d���6e?=�v�)���a*��bF���R��4>�˕�G�=��v-�dP��O�3��+A�nw�|ъ�f۽b�oF�I`‘�#��:��̴g>�j:^���O�mu^U�l�A�oI�’�.��j>Dm\����y��2T��8w�D"1������ת«Q����l�”�C�{���*�����% ��A�߸�=t��� �X��m�9R�x��)�a�-���tbL�����Ǣs��d$oMZ��4I1jXD���
        Segmentation fault

    • starman@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      C#: did you just copy Java’s essay and put your name on it?

      COBOL: why it looks like it’s from 16th century?

      PHP: I did not ask for a spaghetti recipe

      alternative Rust: it’s great, but I asked for an essay, not “🔥 Blazingly fast rust-based EssayOS”

        • 30p87@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          C# is Java except from Microsoft, which means it’s designed and much more integrated with Windows. The official .net core even brings telemetry right out of the box. Using C# apps on Linux is a pain, which is very bad considering it’s supposed to be like Java - compile once, run anywhere - except Java actually achieves it.

          Also, Minecraft runs on Java. Therefore, C# is useless. Boom, destroyed /s

      • raubarno@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Rust v3: “It’s three hours and I’m still compiling dependencies”

        EDIT: Also, “What does Option[Arc[Mutex[BTreeMap[String, Box[RefCell[Box[amp mut F>>>>>>> where F : Fn(T) -> U in your essay mean?” (srry, I didn’t come up with a better obscure data type, it’s probably gibberish)

        EDIT2: Lemmy deletes ‘less than’ sign for some damn reason (time to build Lemmy at home?)

        • kattenluik@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I don’t think you should criticize a language that you clearly have not even learnt the syntax of. Dependencies are also a one-time compile and linking just your own program or library does not take very long, and if you’ve ever worked with C languages it’s all the same.

          Just because you don’t know how to read a languages syntax doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s just like how you have to learn anything else. Rust is quite self-explanatory afterwards.

  • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Unpopular opinion: Ruby is too widely used, because it’s the least performant language.

    Sometimes even for stuff, where performance matters (Asciidoctor).

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Ruby’s popularity in the early 10s thanks to Ruby on Rails feels like it happened by accident. The language is hard to read and low performance, but Rails is completely automagic. But this is also the worst thing about rails. You create your app fast, but then maintaining it is expensive because you can’t onboard new developers easily. Even if they’re familiar with rails’ automagicisms, it will take them quite some time to parse what the hell the code is doing.

      Meanwhile I seem to recall Ruby’s creator finding the situation of his language being popular because he’d created it as an experiment and never thought it would be used in production grade environments

      • AnomalousBit@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        language is hard to read

        for item in array do
          puts item[:name]
        end
        

        Whew, iterating and working with data in Ruby is so hard. How does anyone read this stuff.

        low performance

        Ruby is a syntax-sugar-loaded C-wrapper, just like Python and countless other languages that don’t compile straight to machine code. If anything other than C and Rust are slow to you, then sure, maybe Ruby isn’t a good fit for your project (but Crystal might be).

        create your app fast

        Damn right, I’m two or three times as productive as I ever was in C#/Razor, Java/Spring or kludging through the countless JS boilerplate-heavy web frameworks.

        but then maintaining it is expensive

        As with any app that grows into something successful and widely used, technical complexity becomes exponential. I’ve found once web applications grow to a certain number of models and controllers, the relationships between them start to grow exponentially as well. This means one small change can ripple throughout your application and have unintended consequences where you least expect.

        This is not even remotely a unique problem to Ruby. It’s happened across every project I’ve seen that grows beyond 30 models and a couple of dozen controllers, regardless of language. This is why unit testing is so important.

        But, specifically you mentioned you can’t “onboard new developers easily”. I don’t see how. I’ve taken two CS grads straight out of college and had them adding features with tests within a couple of days on Ruby projects. Ruby was designed to be most friendly to humans, not the compiler. If Rails is what is tripping you up, imagine trying to learn a new web framework on top of an even more complicated language than Ruby. I just don’t see this argument at all, from my experiences.

        Ruby’s creator finding the situation of his language being popular because he’d created it as an experiment

        Pretty sure most any language that was created by an individual and not by BigCorp™ is a feat in and of itself. This speaks more widely to a language’s capabilities and value if it can reach popularity without corporate backing. This argument seems to imply that because of it’s origin, it will always be some kind of experimental toy that was never intended for wide-use.

        Meanwhile, Linus Torvalds:

        I’m doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won’t be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones.

        Things have to start somewhere, I guess?

        I kindly ask you to be more constructive in your criticism of Ruby. It’s a great, powerful language with a low barrier to entry. There’s no reason to spread FUD about it.

        • morrowind@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago
          for item in array do
            puts item[:name]
          end
          

          What’s with the weird syntax, isn’t idiomatic ruby

          array.each do |item|
            puts item[:name]
          end
          

          (or the shorthand version)?