Well, China’s claims are probably that they were always Chinese territory, in spite of 100 years of history and previous Chinese government publications. But the fact is many of the islands within the new bounds on China’s latest maps are internationally recognised as being the territory of other countries. Thus, China is attempting to annex these lands from those countries. The latest maps claim territory well within 100km of the Philipines’ coastline, and it’s practically right on the coast of a Malaysian island.
Examples include Scarborough Shoal off the Philipines, the Spratly Islands, and I think there was some Japanese administrated island that I can’t be bothered to look up right now.
But you said “maps claim it”, that is not annexation. You require boots on the ground occupation to annex a territory, you can’t just claim an annexation into existence.
I ask again, where has China, “taken those islands”?
You are making yourself look like a fool.
For example, the US and Canada both claim several islands and territories owned by the other. Canadian maps show they own it, and American maps show they own it. Have either of the two countries “annexed” that territory?
I don’t know, I feel like that would be a logistical and administrative nightmare, especially as the population of Texas is 5 million more then North Korea, and not that many Texans speak Korean while an equally few North Koreans speak English.
You’re being pedantic. You know what I mean, you’re not arguing against the idea I’m presenting but pointlessly bickering over the words I’m using. And what’s worse, you’re not even correct.
Annexing does not require military action. It usually does involve it, but that is not a defining property. Annexing is adding territory to your own by appropriation, ie taking it from another nation.
China has “taken those islands” and that area of sea into their territory. Obviously it’s still in exactly the same place, but territory is being taken away from other nations.
For example, the US and Canada both claim several islands and territories owned by the other. Canadian maps show they own it, and American maps show they own it. Have either of the two countries “annexed” that territory?
There’s a handful of disputed territories between the US and Canada, and each situation is different. Some of those might have been annexed at some point or another.
A better example would be Canada and Denmark with Hans island. Each country claimed it in turn, back and forth. Every time each nation visited the island and claimed it they annexed it. Strictly speaking they probably didn’t need to visit the island to annex it, but with each side planting a flag to prove their claim they kind of had to visit in order to remove the old flag and make their latest claim superior.
How is China expanding its territory and claiming that of other nations’ not annexing? If it isn’t that, then what is it?
Few words from you, even less substance. Two questions were asked and answered:
I ask again, where has China, “taken those islands”?
China has “taken those islands” and that area of sea into their territory. Obviously it’s still in exactly the same place, but territory is being taken away from other nations.
For example, the US and Canada both claim several islands and territories owned by the other. Canadian maps show they own it, and American maps show they own it. Have either of the two countries “annexed” that territory?
There’s a handful of disputed territories between the US and Canada, and each situation is different. Some of those might have been annexed at some point or another.
Care to answer my questions?
How is China expanding its territory and claiming that of other nations’ not annexing? If it isn’t that, then what is it?
How is China expanding its territory and claiming that of other nations’ not annexing? If it isn’t that, then what is it?
If China’s not physically there to claim it, they’re not really expanding their territory. South Korea considers itself to own all the territory of North Korea, but it can’t enforce that, so their claim doesn’t really matter.
You don’t need to physically be there to annex territory. The map itself is the claim of annexation. You probably can’t assert the claim without being there, but the claim is still annexation on its own.
Furthermore, China is sailing its warships through those areas as if it were their own territory. So they are physically there and attempting to assert their claim.
Korea is a little different in the way the country was split up by the victors of WW2. However, if you acknowledge the sovereignty of North Korea, then South Korea is also trying to annex that territory by claiming it as their own. South Korea’s claims are a little bit more hollow than China’s.
Rarely are entire countries annexed. Territory is annexed. I provided 2-3 countries that China has annexed territory from.
Yes, each situation is different. The point came after that, where your reading comprehension apparently failed. The point was “Some of those might have been annexed at some point or another.” In other words, the US and Canada probably have been annexing territory from one another.
Dunning-Kruger is in full effect here lmfao.
You probably don’t know what that means, but ironically you’re correct - only it’s not me exhibiting cognitive bias.
You still haven’t answer my questions. Were they too hard for you?
Well, China’s claims are probably that they were always Chinese territory, in spite of 100 years of history and previous Chinese government publications. But the fact is many of the islands within the new bounds on China’s latest maps are internationally recognised as being the territory of other countries. Thus, China is attempting to annex these lands from those countries. The latest maps claim territory well within 100km of the Philipines’ coastline, and it’s practically right on the coast of a Malaysian island.
Examples include Scarborough Shoal off the Philipines, the Spratly Islands, and I think there was some Japanese administrated island that I can’t be bothered to look up right now.
But have they annexed those countries? You are not describing annexation.
If an island is owned by one country, then taken by another, that is annexation.
The dispute is whether the first country owned it, however that argument is very weak.
But you said “maps claim it”, that is not annexation. You require boots on the ground occupation to annex a territory, you can’t just claim an annexation into existence.
I ask again, where has China, “taken those islands”?
You are making yourself look like a fool.
For example, the US and Canada both claim several islands and territories owned by the other. Canadian maps show they own it, and American maps show they own it. Have either of the two countries “annexed” that territory?
I annex Texas in the name of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea by virtue of being in the state. Sorry FBI, cope and seethe.
Somehow I feel like that’s an improvement.
That’s because almost anywhere being annexed by the DPRK is an improvement.
I don’t know, I feel like that would be a logistical and administrative nightmare, especially as the population of Texas is 5 million more then North Korea, and not that many Texans speak Korean while an equally few North Koreans speak English.
Tbf you could probably drum up a lot of support for the DPRK in Texas by offering Texans the right to personal nukes, courtesy of Kim.
It would still be better than the current administration.
You’re being pedantic. You know what I mean, you’re not arguing against the idea I’m presenting but pointlessly bickering over the words I’m using. And what’s worse, you’re not even correct.
Annexing does not require military action. It usually does involve it, but that is not a defining property. Annexing is adding territory to your own by appropriation, ie taking it from another nation.
China has “taken those islands” and that area of sea into their territory. Obviously it’s still in exactly the same place, but territory is being taken away from other nations.
There’s a handful of disputed territories between the US and Canada, and each situation is different. Some of those might have been annexed at some point or another.
A better example would be Canada and Denmark with Hans island. Each country claimed it in turn, back and forth. Every time each nation visited the island and claimed it they annexed it. Strictly speaking they probably didn’t need to visit the island to annex it, but with each side planting a flag to prove their claim they kind of had to visit in order to remove the old flag and make their latest claim superior.
How is China expanding its territory and claiming that of other nations’ not annexing? If it isn’t that, then what is it?
Lots of words, none of them answer the question 🤦🏿♂️
Few words from you, even less substance. Two questions were asked and answered:
Care to answer my questions?
If China’s not physically there to claim it, they’re not really expanding their territory. South Korea considers itself to own all the territory of North Korea, but it can’t enforce that, so their claim doesn’t really matter.
You don’t need to physically be there to annex territory. The map itself is the claim of annexation. You probably can’t assert the claim without being there, but the claim is still annexation on its own.
Furthermore, China is sailing its warships through those areas as if it were their own territory. So they are physically there and attempting to assert their claim.
Korea is a little different in the way the country was split up by the victors of WW2. However, if you acknowledge the sovereignty of North Korea, then South Korea is also trying to annex that territory by claiming it as their own. South Korea’s claims are a little bit more hollow than China’s.
Turns out you don’t need lengthy comments for substance.
Your “responses”:
Dunning-Kruger is in full effect here lmfao.
You probably don’t know what that means, but ironically you’re correct - only it’s not me exhibiting cognitive bias.
You still haven’t answer my questions. Were they too hard for you?