While other instances are down, sh.itjust.works
Except when sh.itjust.works went down later too lol
Don’t subscribe to lemmy.ml, the owner is a pro CCP. I unsubbed from all .ml communities.
People are allowed to support whatever political causes they wish, so long as they are willing to engage civilly and fairly with other people. This is how the modern world works, with dialogue and debate instead of censorship, cowardly avoidance and control.
Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that.
Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not?
They’re just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I’m not saying parent poster is correct)
Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest.
At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it.
Directions don’t only become directions when you have power. They’re just ineffective if you don’t have it. Doesn’t mean you’re not at least trying to control people
When that opinion is shutting down dialogue, cowardly avoidance and censorship, it becomes a far dumber opinion than anyone else’s.
I think there’s absolutely things worth doing boycotts over. I don’t really like to have much to do with anything that is benefiting Russia for example. We can both have our opinions.
Wait untill you find who made lemmy in the first place. But don’t worry, there’s this proud capitalist alternative called reddit.
I’ve been here for over a month, I’m well aware of who the Lemmy dev is.
Fortunately I also understand how Lemmy and the fediverse works.
It’s irrelevant who made lemmy since it’s an open source project. Both reddit and lemmy are products of capitalist systems.
It’s also using ActivityPub protocol, which was developed by W3C, a non-profit organization with a CEO, a board of directors and sponsored by large corporations such as Amazon, Google and Microsoft.
I understand why there are many servers, but why is there no central single sign on for many servers? Same with syncing community’s over instances.
I’m new so not sure why or why not.
It’s the same reason there isn’t a central email sign on. Different people control different servers. They’re all just using the same protocol so they are interoperable. Just like your email, you have an address that points to your particular account on your particular provider. Name@host.tld. It’s essentially the same thing as email, just a different form of interaction.
oauth does exist, I think some fedi platforms do support it even.
Oversimplification ahead.
Oauth is a solution when single provider offers many services.
Lemmy is a single service offered by many providers.
While you can work around some of that, that is still the essence of the “problem”.
That was an excellent EIL5
And this is why i think forums are a much better fit for the matrix protocol, it really doesn’t make much sense to use activitypub for this.
This right here. The primary benefit of the matrix protocol would be that a community would keep on chugging as any particular instances go up and down. There would be no “home” instance that goes down and takes the community with it.
This choice is going to see some communities get really big, but then the “home” instance goes belly-up, or makes some, ahem “management decisions” that really hurt the community, and they are going to have to painfully jump ship again and again.
The downside would be higher resource demands for instance owners -but that’s a problem that will get better over time, instead of worse.
The resource issue also isn’t really that big of a deal, i’ve managed to keep up with tons of big chat rooms with messages every second on my OLD matrix server, and it’s been refined since then.
Yeah, we need to spread out a little more. Fediverse is not about having centralized concentrations that can be targetted.
Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That’s pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.
Why can’t we have community tags for grouping? Like have a “tag” you can subscribe to that encompasses all “meme” communities, or “politics”, etc. Then if something goes down people can default to whatever. Maybe you could even make it so if you wanted to post you could post it into tag and the tag decides based off metrics which community to actually post it in? Idk, maybe I am dumb. But that seems cool.
That’s actually not a bad idea. It’d be cool to have communities, community tags, and post tags. You could choose to sort by whichever you want. You could go to a community, or you could just look at the “solarpunk” tag if you want, similar to Twitter I guess.
I feel like we’re seeing the inherent flaws of the fediverse here in some aspects. A completely democratic spread or spread in general of communities doesn’t seem like it’s going to work. Real people and infrastructure are behind making sure instances with communities that serve large amounts of user requests stay up and operable. Infrastructure costs people and money, and people with right skills and fundraising skills are not evenly distributed.
If an instance touts itself to be a mega-instance, that’s one thing. Lemmy is still a confusing place to understand if I should create my own community or join one. Some communities and instances have a lot more % active users and moderators than others.
People are also lazy. Hosting your own instance is “easy” until you have a popular community, or handful of popular communities. Unless you treat it like a job, not a whole lot of people are interested in spending time figuring out fundraising and dev ops to ensure their community can deal with future user growth.
Money, talent, and physical infrastructure aren’t evenly and fairly available. So it makes it difficult to produce a federated universe that doesn’t reflect these things.
Can’t expect new users to go down the rabbit hole of trying to understand what instance they should make an account on. All instances will grow over time and we are seeing a lot of unevenness because of factors stated above. Instances will surely balance out as time goes on, so I think whoever is prematurely attacking large instances—whether they are doing so for fediverse axiom related issues or not—is making fundamental mistakes of fediverse theory.
Mine is sorta like this, it’s pretty quiet but then also happens to have the biggest Steam Deck community.
I’m running a small instance, thelemmy.club
We even have built in Voyager/WefWef at app.thelemmy.club :P
I don’t advertise is too often as I’m not trying to get huge, we have about 120 users and have been up a month. But we have plenty of resources to grow a little.
Tinfoil hat theory: OG Lemmyheads are attacking the big centralized communities and taking them down in order to force all the new users to spread amongst the smaller instances like we’re supposed to, preventing inevitable corporate control of the ActivityPub platform
I doubt that’s anywhere close to the truth but I choose to believe it, crusty old hackers pulling the plug on their children for our own good
As possible as anything else, but it would be unusual. I find it strange that people are so eager to reach for unusual explanations when the actual, conventional extremist trolls absolutely exist. This would be 100% in-character for them, and would benefit their goals very clearly.
Occam’s Razor.
Additionally, they would try to point the finger at absolutely everyone except for them, as that would clearly serve their goals of general misinformation and distrust.
To be totally clear, they literally said it’s a tinfoil theory. To me that implies they’re just wildly speculating.
spread out and no problem
From a user interaction POV, just have a couple of accounts. I started out on a small server, got a .world and kbin account, then got a beehaw account. If a server is down, I just switch instances.
From a community standpoint, it’s terrible because the instance hosts the only live version of the communities. IMHO communities shouldn’t be instance specific. Every (federated) instance should have a two-way aggregation of identically named communities. That has some (minor) drawbacks, but is much better for new users to understand and is much more resilient to individual instance failures and outages. (/rant.off)
truly tragic, communities should have never centralised on the top instances.
Centralization is natural, even in the fediverse. A successful lemmy is going to look like tens of large instances, a few hundred medium instances, and a ton of tiny and irrelevant instances. Even if federation and discovery get more transparent it’s still likely going to be mostly centralized.
Owners of larger instances should freeze people making new accounts and point them to a site that can list other instances maybe for periods of time. There should be some sort of pledge amongst instance owners to help the fediverse where they aren’t hard rules but things to try and do
A block like this would have probably kept me from making an account here, and I’m an IT tech.
(I tried to create my user on Fedd.it, but it simply wouldn’t let me. I tried 10x. So I’m on lemmy.world because here, it worked.) We don’t need anything that makes entering the Fediverse harder.
