Fuck you reddit 2.0, took you long enough. Thanks though, we’ll stop seeing your crap posters pollute our comment section from now on.
90% of people we ban come from world. Very funny that they said they saw a rise of hate speech from our instance though considering the worlders we ban are fucking genocidal maniacs and fascists. You can check the modlog (it’s unfortunately federated), we are one of the tamest instances when it comes to banning people and deleting comments/posts.
For any worlder that was based and liked interacting with lemmygrad (you will notice we did not ban good faith participants), I recommend you make an account on a third-party instance that federates with us, like ml or ee until they also defederate from us because we have principles 🙃
Fuck israel, Palestine will be free a month from now mark my words 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
On top of that, for the worlders finally breathing free again now that the scary tankies are away, you think the USSR wasn’t communist or whatever. You base that on whatever you’ve been taught in school. We’ve read things. We’ve actually gone beyond whatever our high school teachers said and looked into the USSR for ourselves. If you’re not cowards you will debate us about communism and “totalitarian” regimes, we’ll wipe the floor with you. Bet you don’t even know where the world totalitarian comes from or who coined it without looking it up.
And we retain our perfect track record of not blocking real instances while you further isolate yourselves from anything that might cause you some amount of discomfort. Really good democracy you got going there where wannabe tech bros instance admins decide for you what you’re allowed to see, must be those liberal values I hear so much about.
the one instance I’ve hated the most has been .world, solely because 9/10 times when there’s a pending report, that report was about a .worlder saying some horrible shit. and that .worlders will report our comments and posts for “violence advocation” when all we’re doing is discussing the conflict.
Look at their defederation thread, there’s some really vile lies and projections about us.
I did just a little bit ago.
Their take on the conflict in Palestine follows the logic of Zionist organizations, and generally, they show that they don’t know much about the world outside of their narrow Western perspective. So, good fuckin’ riddance.
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It’s quite frankly amazing lemmygrad’s federation with world lasted as long as it did. Hexbear was preemptively defederated from .world and their justification for it was literally the fact that we were explicitly against NATO, full stop.
Without lemmygrad, .world’s fascist bar syndrome is going to massively accelerate.
They went full masks off with this conflict.
They’re literally indistinguishable from
at this pointI’m out of the loop with reddit stormfront. Is that some anti-communist circlejerk?
Stormfront is a Neo-Nazi forum founded in 1996. The joke is that Reddit is similarly fascist and heading down the same path, which is why the emote is titled
:reddit-logo:part of the joke is also the fact that reddit has generally been quicker banning leftist subs while doing nothing about obvious nazi ones until they’re forced to by PR.
Also
the joke is that there was a stormfront subreddit, this is not a doctored screenshot.
Didn’t they use getting rid of that as a counterweight for getting rid of a left sub that wasn’t cth? Cause I remember for cth it was TheDonald.
It’s where they all came from so no surprise.
At this point it’s not from Reddit, it’s probably from 4chan or even the real Stormfront.
I feel like I’m standing in the middle of a digital war where i know not the combatants nor the victims.
at least with the chans it was pretty evident where hate was flowing. but this federation non federated stuff is too zoomer 4 me
But leemygrad IS a hate instance, tho. They hate imperialism, they hate billionaires, they hate poverty and exploitation. And they absolutely hate racism and social chavanism.
is this a crabs out situation? it feels like a crabs out situation
crabs out my boi
especially for the salty
running through the thread downvoting everything
Pearl clutching liberals have to invent wild accusations of hate speech about y’all rather than just admit they’re imperialists
They really are doing their best to reinvent reddit. Solidarity to y’all. I’ve always liked lemmygrad and you’re all comrades to me.
Truly unfortunate as it’s one of the biggest instances. But completely foreseeable as they were seething pretty intensely as they got whipped up into a genocidal rage at the propaganda around the conflict in Palestine.
If this were 2003 they would have defederated from us over calling Bush a liar about WMD’s in Iraq no doubt.
Can’t say its surprising that the reddit /
instance is defederating from all the communist ones.Its unfortunate because people who sign up there won’t be exposed to an anti-imperialist / non-western-supremacist perspective, and will essentially get the exact same takes that they see on reddit.
They’ve created what they’ve wanted, a reddit island in the fediverse. They’ll continue to defederate from any instance that challenges US imperialism.
At least it’ll be less moderation work for us tho.
So that explains why the all feed has been less shit lately.
RIP bozos, have fun with your shitty fascist echo chamber.
If you’re not cowards you will debate us about communism and “totalitarian” regimes, we’ll wipe the floor with you.
Then how come when someone does explain the flaws in your thinking and attempts debate they get banned?
Can you point to any person who was banned for explain flaws in our thinking?
Here’s one right in this comment thread.
And my own comment in that screenshot says I unbanned them. They also did not explain flaws in our thinking, they came in thinking they knew everything about the Soviet Union and were shown, with historical data, that their “facts” did not hold up to scrutiny.
They were still banned in the first place which is my point.
On top of that, for the worlders finally breathing free again now that the scary tankies are away, you think the USSR wasn’t communist or whatever.
I would argue that your post is openly telling those who disagree to explain themselves since you seem to be talking directly to those people. And when they do they’re met with whatever bullshit tankies decide to respond with.
They also did not explain flaws in our thinking, they came in thinking they knew everything about the Soviet Union
As you claim you do? Oh wait I forgot all you guys do is regurgitate what Master Putin wants you to think.
Oh wait I forgot all you guys do is regurgitate what Master Putin wants you to think.
If you start in bad faith like so many other “unique” individuals before you, why should we even give you the time of day? We have nothing to prove to you. Like I don’t give a shit what some rando on the internet thinks about lemmygrad to the point that I would feel like defending our decisions to them; the reason I am answering your questions is because I figure there must be some middle ground and good faith we can establish.
If you choose to squander the good faith we assume of you then that’s your choice, but don’t say bullshit like “The mods here get too offended and ban people trying to have a discussion” when what you’re doing is not having a discussion but proselytizing and impotently expelling your rage caused by whatever slight you feel we’ve committed against you. You’re like the tenth person this month I speak to on Lemmy who pretends to be an enlightened centrist and as soon as they’re backed into a corner, they start lashing out with bullshit. You’re not special, you’re not unique, you’re not doing anything new. It is frankly a testament to our patience that I and others still engage with your type of character. Would you prefer we said “no, not going to engage with obvious clowns” and banned you on sight? Would that vindicate you, in some weird masochist way?
As you claim you do?
I can claim that because unlike you I’ve actually read books about the USSR that cite their sources.
In my experience, it’s typically been that the people have been in bad faith, debate perverts (whataboutism!), or just spouting complete racist nonsense. You can see an example of someone who seems to be trying to legitimately point out flaws in our ideology in this very post. No ban, as they haven’t done anything ban worthy. I can’t get the modlog to load, but you can read it yourself.
Nah, that guy totally deserved ban, coming on high horse and old anticommunist talking points as gotchas.
I thought he was working his way there, but hadn’t crossed the line yet. I was clearly wrong.
it looks like they got banned
I unbanned them on the off chance they want to humiliate themselves just a little bit more
Well, my mistake then. I guess they did take it too far at some point (I still can’t get the modlog to load). The good comments are still there though.
Yeah, I haven’t been able to get the modlog to load for a while either!
Finally I can actually browse All without every other thread being
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I classify “
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s who want nothing more than to see their enemies bleed-- just without the klan robes”.
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What happened in Hungary 1956 was a fascist counter-revolutionary uprising, an attempt to overthrow the worker’s state and usher capitalism back in.
We are now in 2023, there are plenty of sources out there that you can use to educate yourself about this history, you don’t need to keep clinging to anti-communist myths.
Do you think that right wingers, reactionaries and the most rabid anti-communists today would be celebrating and mythologizing those events the way they do if they really aimed at establishing “democratic socialism”? You may as well claim Gorbachev was trying to establish “democratic socialism”, it is just as absurd a narrative.
There was already democratic socialism in Hungary and in the USSR. Socialism is true democracy: workers’ democracy, NOT liberal “democracy”. The so-called “democratic socialism” term used by the western left is merely a euphemism for social democracy, which is inherently capitalist.
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Demands means absolutely nothing by itself. Especially demands from the liberal sympathisers. Look at solidarność in Poland. They won but of their famous 21 demands literally just a single one was fulfilled. Rest changed into poverty, suicide, mass unemployment and shock therapy in the meantime, and solidarność itself was and still is used to crush the working class power.
Democratic socialism is when you lynch communists, release fascist prisoners, welcome returning fascists from the west and mark jewish homes. Thank you for clearing that up.
Do you not think that the USSR was democratic? Here is a cia source talking about the USSR under Stalin:
Relevant part is screenshot, link to cia document in the second top comment.
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And who told you a single man could order the execution of his political rivals? Like where did you learn that the first time?
Literally the CIA, the biggest anticommunists on the block, dont consider him a dictator, based on the internal docs, one of which I just linked.
Also one party democracy is still democracy. How does having two or more shitty parties better reflect the will of the population compared to a proletarian party with internal factions?
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From our point of view, working class people have a singular set of interests in opposition to the capitalist class. Capitalist nations have multiple parties because the ruling classes there are unified except in regards to maintain capitalism. Otherwise their interests conflict.
In America, the domestic bourgeoisie are more catered to by the Republicans, and the international bourgeoisie more the Democrats. That’s an exaggeration and broad strokes, but historically the reason they’re separate have been because they had separate sets of patronage networks and catered to different regions of the countries. Democrats in the late 19th century were represented by southern land owners and banks. Republicans were more the party of northern manufacturing.
So while the capitalist classes have separate interests requiring different sets of political interests, the working class aren’t in conflict with ourselves. We all want the same things. Higher wages, better healthcare, housing, fewer labor hours. And we can get all of that without splitting ourselves into competitive parties. Why would you form a party contrary to the interests of socialism in the first place?
Multiple parties in a socialist country is like inviting foreign capitalists to come in and sabotage democracy. It gives them a wedge with which to run their own little puppet candidates to weaken broad, unified socialist interests
The inability to establish new political parties is inherently anti-democratic
Why? I can find you probably a dozen liberal thinkers (liberals in the original meaning of the word) who disagree with this assertion, and who thought the opposite actually. But this is more of a question for you, to help you start questioning things you might not have questioned before. Why is plurality automatically more democratic?
I love how he fucked off after this question specifically
