It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it’s users will not be allowed to proceed.

We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.

  • justdoit@lemm.ee
    5·
    1 year ago

    Every time I see a picture of him I think it has to be edited or something. He’s like a walking Snapchat filter.

    • Dessalines@lemmy.mlOP
      2·
      1 year ago

      o7. We’re out here for yall, and we’re gonna make sure the fediverse stays inoculated from threats.

        • Dessalines@lemmy.mlOP
          0·
          1 year ago

          It’s very strange to me that a lot of the pro-facebook views below seem to start with the base assumption that facebook is out to help the fediverse, and have no malicious motives behind all this. Its like inviting a con-man into your home because they super-promised they’ll make you rich.

          Really surprising that some people can’t see through Facebooks opportunism, and are suddenly willing to trust these con-artists.

  • Lermatroid@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    Gonna go against the grain here a little bit, but why? If they are federated, it will mean that you can move off of threads more easily to other servers and not get locked into a walled garden. Encouraging companies to embrace federation will avoid the shit shows like we’ve seen at twitter and reddit, since users will be easily able to jump ship without much loss. Additionally, apps like threads make federated platforms much more approachable to newcomers and those who do not even know what the fediverse is.

    I’d love someone to explain it to me, but this feels like a massive footgun.

    • BlackKong@lemmy.world
      0·
      1 year ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

      Embrace: they embrace the fediverse, bring millions of new users to it and everyone is happy. The fediverse grows and the new meta instance gets a ton of content. Everyone is happy

      Extend: meta begins to add features to their instance which clashes with or is unusable with other instances. These begin to pile up and issues develop.

      Extinguish: meta unfederates from other instances. People are now forced to stay where they were and lose a majority of their friends and content from metas instance. Or switch over. Mass migration away from original instances. These instances die

    • w3dd1e@lemm.ee
      01·
      1 year ago

      I agree with you. I think this is a way to introduce people who aren’t tech-savvy into Activity Pub and Fediverse, which is ultimately a good thing.

      Yes, Meta has a history of being untrustworthy, but I think a place that allows communication between a large population isn’t a bad thing either.

      I would rather wait and see when Threads is full federated and what that means. We just don’t have enough information to make a decision.

      I would rather 70 million people have joined Mastodon but that’s just not how things work and we need to be realistic.

  • marito@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    Hi guys, I’m new here from Reddit and I’m still learning about Lemmy and the Fediverse. Can someone ELI5 how not blocking Threads can negatively affect this community? Thanks.

    • 𝕭𝖚𝖑𝖚 𝕺𝖓𝖙𝖆@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      This is the gist: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

      Basically, big companies can destroy decentralised network from within once big enough people adopt it.

      What they do is

      1. Embrace - adopt the network with their own proprietary system, like Threads for example, as opposed to other system in the fediverse right now that are open source.

      2. Extend - spend resources like money, manpower, and even extensive knowledge on how to expand and make the network a better place with a lot more features while simultaneously promoting and making so that only their proprietary app can access it in the best way.

      3. Exterminate / Extinguish - once they have good amount of users, they can start crippling the other side, like maybe Threads can see posts from Lemmy and Mastodon but not the other way around, people are gonna think that Threads is superior and leaving the original instances. They can also pull back resources like even the people who used to work on developing the network that they used to give so generously before, and such the maintainer now has no way to keep up in developing the network.

      Also known as the EEE tactic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

  • synth@lemmy.world
    01·
    1 year ago

    preemptively blocking an instance just because it’s owned by meta and not due to bad conduct is cringe as fuck

    • MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      In what universe are you living in that meta does not have a history chock full of bad conduct?! Frog, meet scorpion.

      Oh, and stop misusing “cringe” while you’re at it.