I think we both made our points and that we disagreed. No need to be obnoxious about it, you can just stop replying if you don’t enjoy the convo.
But yes, if I didn’t have to go to work to buy food, I would help build stuff, work on various interesting projects that would have me, etc. Absolutely no way I would stand still adding nothing to no one.
Its what universal basic income is proving, people are still productive, but how they went to be & what they like doing.
Yes, I would probably work even more, but only the things I wound enjoy, putting my time into things I expect the most (non-monetary) reward/experience/sense of pride/whatever floats my goat.
And the 'put in as much time part, I suppose it would vary very much, some would still be workoholics, some would would with an hour a day but be more productive bcs that’s just how they do their best. An all of that is ok imho, in a post scarcity world where everyone can be housed & fed for a fraction of the total global prediction, the whole point is to work less … The ‘work’ part in sense of must, with less options overall.
Im really saying, that I would like that ppl would be able to ‘do’ (“work”) what they like, be productive in their way (or not at all). I’m one of those ppl happy to pay taxes, regardless of (or especially for) social transfers.
I think we both made our points and that we disagreed. No need to be obnoxious about it, you can just stop replying if you don’t enjoy the convo.
But yes, if I didn’t have to go to work to buy food, I would help build stuff, work on various interesting projects that would have me, etc. Absolutely no way I would stand still adding nothing to no one.
Its what universal basic income is proving, people are still productive, but how they went to be & what they like doing.
That’s a bit different though. UBI means people can survive without working, but working will still drastically increase their quality of living.
And sure, you may still work if you had no benefit from it, but would you put in as much time as people do now? And how many other people would?
Yes, I would probably work even more, but only the things I wound enjoy, putting my time into things I expect the most (non-monetary) reward/experience/sense of pride/whatever floats my goat.
And the 'put in as much time part, I suppose it would vary very much, some would still be workoholics, some would would with an hour a day but be more productive bcs that’s just how they do their best. An all of that is ok imho, in a post scarcity world where everyone can be housed & fed for a fraction of the total global prediction, the whole point is to work less … The ‘work’ part in sense of must, with less options overall.
Im really saying, that I would like that ppl would be able to ‘do’ (“work”) what they like, be productive in their way (or not at all). I’m one of those ppl happy to pay taxes, regardless of (or especially for) social transfers.