• Plaid_Kaleidoscooe@lemmy.world
    7618·
    1 year ago

    I know it’s cool to hate on it, but Edge is legit my favorite browser. All the tools and functionality of chrome and it’s extensions, with all the office and student tools that come in Edge.

    Stuff like the Immersive Reader, Cite Tools, Collections, and a bunch of other stuff make it my favorite browser for now.

    • Qvest@lemmy.world
      5911·
      1 year ago

      Nothing against people liking Edge, but not being able to uninstall it by normal means made me dump Windows entirely. I mean, wtf? Not being able to uninstall a browser? Like, what?

        • lameJake@feddit.de
          227·
          1 year ago

          Yes. Because I don’t want that software so why can’t I uninstall it. Same goes for basically every default program on windows. It’s like not being able remove the ugly lights from the previous owner in your flat even though you got some new nice ones.

          • unipadfox@pawb.social
            144·
            1 year ago

            For Edge, it’s probably at least partially because Microsoft doesn’t want you to end up in a situation where you have no browsers on your computer. You can’t expect the average user to not be stupid enough to uninstall Edge without having another browser installed, nor can you expect them to figure out how to install a browser without one.

            The same goes for things like an image viewer or video player; you can install alternatives, but Microsoft doesn’t want you to end up in a situation where you lose core functionality on your computer. They have no guarantees that whatever alternative you install has the same capabilities as what’s bundled by default.

            • narp@feddit.de
              11·
              1 year ago

              I’m pretty sure you could install edge through the windows store, which is another thing they seem to push a lot lately.

            • Qvest@lemmy.world
              8·
              1 year ago

              While this is valid from a user-friendliness standpoint, if someone is to uninstall Edge, even if they are an average user who just doesn’t want edge, they have a risk of breaking the system in its entirety just by uninstalling it. It doesn’t even matter if the person has something like firefox or even google chrome. Causing this much breakage over something as simple as a browser that can easily be replaced shouldn’t be the norm

        • johnthedoe@lemmy.ml
          9·
          1 year ago

          To me it’s about the direction Microsoft is going. Having that much away and bias over edge and OneDrive. And getting increasingly more aggressive at cloud computing while wanting you to pay more money too them. All that makes for a really sour experience especially with windows 11. I’ve dumped windows too

      • nonearther@lemmy.ml
        14·
        1 year ago

        You can’t uninstall Safari from Mac either, but I haven’t seen a single cry for that.

        Forcefully setting Edge as default browser is definitely a bad behaviour by Microsoft, but thankfully there are one-click solution for that.

        • WhatTrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          13·
          1 year ago

          You don’t hear people complain about Apple (anymore) because it’s accepted that you are buying into a walled-garden ecosystem when you buy Apple. That’s kinda its whole thing.

          There are a few issues with Edge on Windows, one being set as the default out of the box, another being it’s inability to be uninstalled, another being it’s the only option when using windows built-on search, and yet another being it’s anything-but-one-click solution depending on the version of Windows in question. In some versions, you have to still go into default apps, find the browser you want, set it as default, click around the popup begging you to try Edge anyway, then go down the list of file extensions and select your browser for all the ones it doesn’t change on its own when you make it the default, some of which may popup again begging you to try Edge first. And when that’s done, you still can’t uninstall it or make it not open when using windows search.

          For a product marketed as the opposite of a walled garden, it really is frustrating. Especially considering older versions of Windows had a built-in browser that could be uninstalled and could set another browser as default with one click from inside the new browser.

      • Nioxic@lemmy.world
        32·
        1 year ago

        You need a browser… lol

        I guess thats why

        What if grandmother uninstalls it by accident?

        Theyre too dumb to fix it

        • familyfriendly@lemmy.world
          112·
          1 year ago

          You can but the process is a bit painful and it’ll re-install itself the next day when windows forces an update

          • beanutputter@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            It’s not the worst tbh, Revo Uninstall or BloatyNosy make it easy enough to remove it without having to do some manual Powershell bs

    • PrivateOnions@lemmy.world
      234·
      1 year ago

      Not sure why everyone is downvoting you. As long as you don’t care about privacy, Edge is probably the best browser.

      • Plaid_Kaleidoscooe@lemmy.world
        82·
        1 year ago

        I feel like, to an extent, the privacy ship left port a long time ago, and that bitch is nuclear powered. Without social media (other than this/reddit) I don’t feel like I’m giving any more info than I would be otherwise.

        Don’t take that as a disregard for my privacy though, I do take steps to protect myself within reason and budget (read: free/open).

        I’m just not convinced that spending extra energy and time to lock things down further will see the returns, real or imagined, that justifies the effort. I’m open to new ideas though!

        I hope I’m not wrong down the road, but considering I’m a literal nobody on the grand scale without aspirations for political office, I think I’ll be ok… I think.

        • PrivateOnions@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          What you are referring to is called a threat model. Everyone’s threat model is different. Edge is still significantly better than using Chrome or Opera in my opinion, especially on Windows because Microsoft already has your data at the OS level so using a different browser does not make a huge difference anyways , unless you use very hardened Firefox with fingerprinting resistance and a whole bunch of other settings which just improves your browsing privacy but Microsoft will still have your data. In my opinion, for the average threat model, Edge with the strict privacy setting, telemetry turned off, and Ublock origin installed is more than adequate.

    • ballzovsteel@lemmy.world
      9·
      1 year ago

      Edge has gotten light years better. I still hate some of things Microsoft tries to throw in my face but I agree it’s getting higher up on my list.

    • Its_Always_420@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 year ago

      I’m not really planning to use it. But Edge has given me an excuse to uninstall Chrome and use it as a Firefox backup instead.

    • Swarfega@lemm.ee
      5·
      1 year ago

      I used to like Edge but as each version releases its becoming more and more annoying. It’s constantly trying to set itself as the default browser. It imported stuff over from my main browser without asking. It pushes Bing hard! Outlook also has now been set to open URLs in edge completely ignoring the default browser option. You have to reconfigure Outlook.

      Fuck off Microsoft

      • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi
        2·
        1 year ago

        I only used it to muck about with Bing Chat. But now Vivaldi can fake being Edge so you can access it without needing another browser.

    • saegiru@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Edge has been my favorite for awhile, but I have always wanted to look at something less intrusive. I just tried Brave out today because someone mentioned it stole the Edge vertical tab implementation, which is one of my must-have features from Edge. So far I’m liking it and it supports all the extensions I was using. I can’t speak to the cite tools or collections as I didn’t use them, but Brave seems to have an immersive reader mode called Speedreader though.

      EDIT: Okay fine, I removed Brave after a day with all this information below. I would love to switch back to Firefox at some point so hopefully they steal the vertical tabs soon.

    • aja@lemm.ee
      2·
      1 year ago

      Agree. I use it on my work pc and it works seamlessly with all the Office apps and I love the look and feel of it. It feels more versatile than the Firefox browser I use on my personal laptop, thought admittedly I probably just don’t utilise most of its functionality

    • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.world
      101·
      1 year ago

      Github has a lot of stuff meant to be run after a Windows install that removes as much of the bloat and spyware Microsoft puts on it as in can and downloads and installs programs you want.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        24·
        1 year ago

        Seeing comments like this is like seeing a battered spouse make excuses for their abuser’s behavior. Sure, you could do all those workarounds, but why should you have to put up with it?

        Have some self-respect, kick Windows to the curb, and get an OS that actually respects your property rights as owner of the computer by actually doing what you want it to do instead of letting a corporation weaponize it against you.

        • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          I try not to use Windows as a daily driver, but I still need it for some things, most of them work related. I assume a lot of people are in this situation and I’m trying to be helpful.

          That being said, while I appreciate evangelizing software that doesn’t turn you into a commodity, I don’t appreciate the domestic abuse comparison.

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            I don’t appreciate the domestic abuse comparison.

            Too bad, because it’s apt nonetheless. And you should be shocked, not because you think I’m making light of domestic abuse, but because I’m forcing you to consider how harmful corporate abuse is.

            Corporate abuse may be less severe than domestic abuse from an individual, but it’s so much more widespread that it risks becoming normalized in society. They are trying to do no less than destroy our property rights, infantilize us with learned helplessness, and turn us into serfs to be milked for rents. From that collective perspective, corporate abuse could arguably be considered an even worse problem overall because it harms everybody including bystanders who had no say in the matter instead of just the metaphorical “spouse” who made the choice to stay with the abuser.

  • Addfwyn@lemmy.ml
    212·
    1 year ago

    It’s the only browser we can use in my office, so have gotten pretty used to it. It’s honestly not that bad, they’ve come a long way since the IE days.

    It’s not my home-use browser, but it’s absolutely serviceable.

      • Vithar@lemmy.ml
        4·
        1 year ago

        It’s chrome but with ram management. Microsoft solved the issue somehow, so edge with 1000 tabs doesn’t big things down like chrome with 1000 tabs does.

    • Holzkohlen@feddit.de
      17·
      1 year ago

      A lot of people don’t know this, but you can edge yourself while watching porn on any browser.

    • PolarisFx@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      5·
      1 year ago

      Just upgraded my hardware so I can play Starfield. And I bought an extra SSD just to dual boot linux. My video card is so new I can’t get the live usb to show any video.

      Everyone else in my situation has to use the onboard graphics to install, but I have none. So I tried this time. But I’ve gotta use windows. it just works

      • EddoWagt@feddit.nl
        4·
        1 year ago

        Uhh I’m pretty sure both the Nvidia 4000 series and AMD 7000 series are supposed to work must fine, maybe there’s something wrong with your live usb, what distro is on it and what gpu are you using?

      • null@slrpnk.net
        51·
        1 year ago

        Just write custom drivers. It’s like you don’t even care about freedom!

  • nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml
    9·
    1 year ago

    Aaah, just like the old days of IE6 to get firefox. Nice to see firefox overtake chrome again for the day.