This is a very good thing. Thank you EU for forcing us dirty heathens in NA to have consumer protections.
Once again, the EU drags the rest of us into modernity kicking and screaming.
I hate the term consumer the only I consume is food . How about buyer or customer just anything but consumer
Tough. It is appropriate description for what you are doing. Every tangible thing you buy at some point gets discarded one way or another. You’ve consumed the energy and materials needed to make whatever it is.
Consuming does not mean eating. Either you produce, sell or consume a product.
I think there should be a requirement for easily expandable storage as well.
Switch and Steam Deck seem to be OK for this, but I’d like to further piss on Apple’s chips.
I think it should be fully replaceable storage, not just expandable because a lot of companies throw out completely fine devices to get rid of sensitive information on the soldered drives
Excellent, I like that I can replace batteries easily from my old handhelds, the only issue for that case is finding trusted ones.
Everything with a battery needs to have a replacable battery by 2027.
electric cars, phones, wireless mice, headphones etc etc etc
Some need to be “user replacable”
some needs to be replacable by a professional (electric car batteries, for example)
This is a fantastic change, every battery powered device should have self serviceable replaceable parts if it is safe for an untrained individual to do so.
During the early days of cell phones, replaceable batteries was the norm, not the exception, and it was as complicated to perform as your TV remote. No need for training. In these modern days, you may want to turn off your phone cleanly before proceeding, but that’s pretty much it!
Let’s not even talk about the early handheld game sets: the GameBoy (Nintendo) and GameGear (Sega), that were using regular disposable batteries (rechargeable ones were recommended though!).
Vendors have made our devices complicated to repair to lower costs and later to make our smartphones water resistant. They started off being easy to disassemble and re-assemble.
Steam deck done. https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Steam_Deck
Isn’t the main issue whether or not there’s an ease to replace? There’s like 20 steps and a bunch of easily breakable cables involved with replacing it currently.
I mean I think you can replace the Switch’s battery too by that standard.
Same site even says it’s only 1 extra step in total, though instead of the cables being in the way, it sounds like the shields a bit more difficult.
But like either of these replacements would require a technical user to do it.
Steam deck done.
Not really. Look up the Linus Tech Tips teardown. The battery is glued in super hard. Linus said he spoke to Valve about that and according to him Valve said they’re looking into making it easier to replace at a later date. Since then I’ve not seen any reports about a change.
Says 2-4 hours and “difficult” on the battery replacement page
And requires heating + prying.
If this is considered replaceable, I wonder what an non-replaceable battery would be. Soldered to the main board and trying to unsolder it causes a failsafe to short the CPU?
Really like the initiative by the EU to try and empower consumers again. I think generally the Switch and Steam Deck feature replaceable parts, but device manufacturers need to be held to a consumer-friendly standard.
Isn’t pretty much everything replaceable in Steam Deck? Including official guides?
Yes, but ideally you can swap the battery without having to disassemble the entire thing.
You don’t disassemble the entire thing. You remove a few screws and remove the back cover. There are some plastic clips to be mindful of, but side from that, it’s not much harder than upgrading RAM in a laptop.
Compare this to something like an iPhone that is sealed shut with adhesive, and you have to peel off the fragile glass digitizer and screen off. Then remove every component, and the battery is bound to the back of the chassis with adhesive. And Apple wants to sue outlets that actually do this.
Totally different game.
It’s a good thing Valve makes the official parts and tutorials available on ifixit for the deck
The battery is still unnecessarily glued in with permanent adhesive that requires a heat gun to melt it though.
I never understand why batteries need to be glued in at all, surely pure friction will keep them in place. If you really need them stuck down use pull tabs.
I wish the EU would just stop getting their grubby hands ibto everything they possibly can
Gotta love the reddit-tier “downvote anyone who disagrees” mindset here. It’s like I never even left reddit!
Genuinely curious why you are against pro consumer legislation?
I’m against regulations that get between parties and enforce terms onto voluntary agreement. Why is it the position of government to tell me what products I should and shouldn’t want to buy? If you want shit with removable batteries, cool, go out and make your demands heard. But why should your demands be pushed onto everyone else as “pro-consumer” when it ignores the demands of literally any consumers who have different preferences than you? What about the consumer that doesn’t give a fuck about usb-c or removable batteries? Why should they be made to buy products designed around standards that aren’t important to them?
Products with non-removable batteries are bad for the environment in a number of ways. They hurt even the ones not interested in the product.
OK and?
And the ones getting hurt don’t want to.
