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ZZ the real Goat
I’ve been too afraid to ask but this feels like the proper thread to do so.
What is the difference between a 10 and a 9? When I was a kid I just assumed that the 10 referred to the best player/goal scorer. But now most strikers are referred as 9.
What does each number stand for?
10 is the one who pulled a string to score a goal. Usually most creative player with sense of scoring and final pass. Totti, Del Piero, Messi is the scoring type of 10. Meanwhile there also a no 10 that focus on being a metronome and elegant player like Zidane, Ozil, Hagi.
9 is your main spearhead. The one you expect to score in 1 on 1, the one who save your team and score the first in desperate 2-0 lose before half time, the one who dare to demand for the ball to score. They are usually strong, skilled in first time shoot, can smell the blood between spaces to kill the game. Prime example is Vardy, CR7, Haaland. Extra point to different breed of 9 from Brazil, Romario and R9 who also excel in dribbling and trickery. CR7 formerly on that category
As time passes, some 9 has the technical ability for last pass and playmaking like Kane and Giroud. But they are still no 9.
I agree with almost everything you said.
But CR7 was never a 9.
Cr7 has been a 9 for like 8 years now. His winger days have been long gone
He hasn’t been a proper “winger” during any of the 3 peat.
He played as more of an inside forward, arriving late into the box. He didn’t play for Madrid as a target man exactly.
Funny seeing the ball on the ground there, just playing innocent, knowing what those two could do with it.
Musiala is the only good 10 I see
lol I’m really curious about two things first one is how ronaldo is going to react to this one zidane might take rooney’s place who knows
the second one is What was that picture zidane gave to Messi?
“Scoring a goal in the World Cup final is the best thing ever, right? Both of us can say that”
Game Recognizes Game
WOW!!!
man I love this convo
Mario Gotze pulls up a chair and starts nodding with understanding
with an erection nonetheless
Okay my Zidane anti agenda is dropped he is now top 3 after Messi andPele
Man what a beautiful interview. My favorite player ever with the best ever.
lol Messi said about the number 10 and what it represents “We all believed we were the different player, even though we weren’t.” I think with these two it’s pretty safe to say that they were.
Wouldn’t it be funny if, maybe at some point later in Maradona’s life, he actually fantasized about what it would be like to play like Messi?
it’s nice to see such legends be so humble though. as good as they were, without the other 10 players on the pitch (and oh boy, there were some names) they wouldn’t achieve the heights they did
I was laughing at that comment. In my head i was thinking who else can say they’re different then Messi and Zidane
i’m always blown away by how good Zidane’s spanish is
So they have Haki?
During this whole conversation you can kinda see Messi being starstruck a little bit.
I think it was Mascherano who said: “The thing about Messi is that he doesn’t realize he’s Messi.”
He’s just a player, a football fan, like any other who would be in awe of Zidane.
The other funny thing is that Messi is getting the point in middle age where he doesn’t seem so much younger than Zidane anymore. They were still playing at the same time at some point.
Yeh I mean in the first few seconds you already see he’s smiling way more than just a regular interview.
I mean look at 0:18 of the interview lol. He didn’t have a bigger smile winning the Ballon d’or
having a sit-down and nice chat with Zizou is much more unique to Messi than winning another Balon Dor at this point lmao
Winning Ballon d’Or < Meeting Zizou
I mean after winning it for the 8th time, it probably just doesn’t make him as happy as it used to.
At this point he’s probably won the Ballon d’or more times than he’s met Zidane.
They both look super star struck lmao. Zidane awkwardly sitting up every time he talks and messi stuttering every other word. The whole thing was weirdly wholesome
Zidane apparently has a certain aura and presence that people really feel when around him. Not even necessarily due to his skills as a player or his status in society. I think even if he had been a regular average joe he would be one of those people that exude leadership and confidence.
So there’s a good chance Messi is under that spell even if he sees himself as equal or superior.
He’s dead sexy and has sort of resting, “I am very displeased with this situation” face. Also, of course, a god of the game.
Plus, Messi is rather shy and easily becomes bashful in social situations, especially ones where he is the focus, and they are going to talk about how great he is. You’d think he’d get used to it, but he never seems to. When he went up to get his award for the FIFA Best Player in January, and the audience kept applauding he said, “you’re making me more nervous.”
I always thought the ones who have that kind of aura are Zizou, Seedorf, Xabi Alonso, Pirlo, and Henry.
Zizou the king.
Most revered Frenchman. Even more than any of their presidents.
If he ever ran for office he’ll have a damn good shot
You’re basically saying Zidane is a giga chad
you can kind of see it in pictures alone. tons of charisma
That’s just called charisma. And yes, even on screen you can see he has loads of it. Could have ran for political office in another life if he hadn’t been so good at football.
Feel like Zizou is the player that undoubtedly makes even the best footballers feel star struck. He has been a great asset to Real Madrid’s recruiting. A lot of their big signings have pointed to his phone call playing a huge role in their decision.
Even Becks mentioned in his documentary how much he loved the moment when Zizou planted the seed in his head and that’s a player who had easily the biggest brand name in sport at that time.
My favorite quote in the interview is “Scoring a goal in the World Cup final is the best thing ever,right? Both of us can say that”
But I was told the world cup was a 7 game tournament 😭
TimelineCR7 would be furious rn watching this interview
Zidane scored in two finals as well… Not many can say they did.
a 7 game tournament without a mistake tho you can come back if you make a mistake in CL but you never come back if u make a mistake at world cup beside this all nations play at that tournament you can’t just play with the same strategy
I think there’s more nuance to the 7 game tournament thing.
Realistically, the World Cup needs to be fit into a period of 2-3 weeks for logistical and tv rights reasons. And as well, a single elimination tournament format is not the best way to judge the quality of a team. There are a lot of ways the format is a poorer judge of the question “which country is best at soccer” than, for example, a more traditional league format would be.
Another example is that giant slaying is fun in single elimination domestic cups, but the first division is always a better indication of team quality.
None of this takes away from winning the trophy.
Wholesome asf.
you can just see Messi is honestly kinda flustered
and when he’s gonna be in Zidanes position hes gonna be just as much of an inspiritaion to the players playing then
I’m sure there’s some nostalgia informing my feelings here but for me the mid 2010s were my favorite time being a football fan because it was like… just before Pep/Klopp came into the Premier League and completely changed the footballing meta.
The days of the no. 10 who was a bit of a luxury player are past us
I know what you are saying and I’m sure it’s a thing in gaming, but “footballing meta” just sounds so off. And because not all people know specific terms from other hobbies, I don’t quite using them out of their context.
That’s a bit weird though. Meta is just a normal word and has been used more and more in football and other sports. How else are words supposed to become common words? Meta is the perfect word for what is meant.
i would probably add that most top teams were much more distinct in their way playing. Nowadays i feel like most of the UCL games are more or less the same sadly, unless it’s a team playing it for the first time. Football truly peaked in the 2010-2016.
KDB is a no. 10 through and through
What a wholesome interview. ❤️🥹
That conversation hade me smiling for the whole 29 minutes.
When Zidane calls Ronaldo now, it will directly go to his voicemail.
Every photo of Ronaldo and Zidane constantly look like they’re trying not to kiss each other so don’t think he’d be too worried
I dread the day when the genius that is Lionel Messi will retire. Football won’t be the same.
Ronaldo’s comment on the video “🥲🥲🥲🥲”
😔👎not my manager
Yes, CR10 famously played in the 10 position and always wore the 10 jersey.