• Milksteaks [he/him]@midwest.social
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      9 months ago

      I was watching the falcon and winter soldier and I was thinking the flag smashers had a good point and were doing good for the world. They wanted no borders and no more nationalism. At one point they randomly had the flagsmashers kill some innocents to make them the antagonists

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        9 months ago

        Propaganda is everywhere. Especially in super hero movies where they can remove ambiguity by writing actions that make bad guys unambiguously bad. They justify the heroes with these clear cut good and evil situations. Like in Batman when he kidnaps the guy from Hong Kong because Joker is making his points using grand displays that kill a bunch of people. Or in 24 when they carefully craft a situation where torture looks sensible (and maybe even pays off? It’s been a long time, I can’t remember if they show torture as a “justifiable” but ultimately useless act, or if they portray torture as an effective way of obtaining information when the tortured knows they only have to hold out for 24 hours).

        The Boys does a better job with this by making the idea of heroes saving the day itself the villain and highlighting the corruption that would likely go along with such power and reputation.

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        9 months ago

        Just finished watching “Death and other Details.” Same thing happened. Victor Sams did nothing wrong. 😑

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        9 months ago

        This kind of argument is like those anti-communist arguments “would you want to have to share your iPod with strangers?”

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        9 months ago

        No one’s saying you shouldn’t have a safe place to sleep, and if they are then I would like to have a discussion with them

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        9 months ago

        maybe if you think really hard you can imagine some kind of differences between national borders, and the boundaries of personal living space…

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        9 months ago

        buddy it used to be absolutely standard for people to invite complete and utter strangers into their homes, offer them food and a place to sleep, and not expect any sort of payment beyond maybe them telling some stories and news.

        maybe research the past before saying laughable things as if they’re some amazing “gotcha”