A local (and very well off) welding company wanted me to pay for my own courses and equipment when I applied. It would have been hundreds of dollars out of my pocket, for MAYBE a chance to be taken on as an apprentice, if I withstand being the shop bítch for long enough.
PART TIME.
This is so crazy to me. I got into a low voltage trade and everything was paid for. I brought minor hand tools, but everything over 100$ was provided. And that is like standard around me (for new guys). Also amazing wages once you’re a well experienced worker. (Talking 5 years or so).
Maybe not welding, or electrician, but pipefitters, plumberd, fire guys, all great trades.
What kind of work is that if I were to go looking? I really enjoyed control wiring for HVAC systems, didn’t enjoy lugging boilers up flights of stairs or brazing compressors in place in Manhattan with 1/2sqft of space to work in…
My work specifically i very company dependant, but data wire, access control, fire, cameras, all the fun “low voltage” stuff. Normally you’ll find Access, Security, and Cameras bundled. Sometimes with Fire, sometimes Data. All depends on who ya look for!
The school I went to, you were basically sold to the employer LOL. They paid for your school when they hired you. You just had to agree to work there for a couple of years.
I wasn’t aware, that truly blows…
I wonder what generation that kind of attitude will end at. There’s nothing to gain by not even letting people get their foot in the door
Most trade jobs don’t pay enough. As an auto tech The offerings are not good, because most dealers keep most of the profits. Nurses are getting screwed left and right too. I tried switching over to being a truck driver and they actually pay less now than they used to, this is after the supposed shortage and I was out 14hrs a day.
I’m a former auto tech who got into sales, after seeing my complete moron coworkers who knew nothing about their jobs and wrote bad checks that I was supposed to cash, making twice as much money as me.
Or in my case: “cool no one wants to pay me, I guess I’m taking the $1000 out of savings and starting my own businesses.” It’s way more stress, but I’m making enough money that I can think about buying a house and retiring before I die.
He started a business with a grand and got lucky. How many people wouldn’t be successful with that grand? How many people don’t even have that money to spare?
Skill shortage probably comes the same way as bankruptcy: gradually, then suddenly. We are probably in the slowly running out of tradesmen phase of the craftocalypse.
Lemme explain why that is:
When I got into construction, a construction company was an owner/salesman and four guys who did everything from digging the foundation to putting in the last cabinet screw.
When the housing boom happened, everyone learned only one part of the process and none of the rest. Capitalism stepped in and said “we need to sell products with the least amount of skill to install them!” and we got shit like wire closet shelving with sheetrock anchors instead of installers who know what a stud is and how to find one.
I have to do every trade now, and I also have to deal with guys who needed a job so they ran to Home Depot and bought some tools and are calling themselves handymen without any experience and they’re fucking up everything right and left because they don’t know even the most basic physics concepts. One of them grew and sold weed all his life and now he’s out of business because of legalization. He has no other option but to be a laborer and he’s not smart enough to understand the job he’s doing. Another was a pro water sports guy and he is actually destroying the things he is hired to work on and I am having to redo all of it. He ran plumbing in a house with no P-traps and stunk the house up with sewer gas ffs.
Things are built to spec. Everybody wants that 4500sf house but most people don’t know what quality looks like. When I was house shopping, the new construction homes homes already made me very disappointed and leary. I eventually bought an older home with a Stablok panel and felt better about that. 😂 Swapped the panel out after close, I’m not nuts.
I eventually bought an older home with a Stablok panel and felt better about that.
My house had a Bulldog panel with the original 1960s inspection sticker still attached to it. Swapped it for a modern 200 amp panel when I had my solar panels installed.
It’s hard to buy a new house in my area… They’re so expensive, and the quality just isn’t there.
There’s a startling lack of quality a lot of the time now, it’s gonna get hella bad when the trades-boomers go.
True enough. I can only hear “NoBoDy WaNtS tO WoRk AnYmOrE” so many times before i figure who’s to blame for that
Exactly. Nobody wants to work for unliveable wages. It’s a wage shortage, not a labour shortage.
Or, after being tired of being lowballed for work and offers to be paid in exposure, “fuck you, pay me.”
A local (and very well off) welding company wanted me to pay for my own courses and equipment when I applied. It would have been hundreds of dollars out of my pocket, for MAYBE a chance to be taken on as an apprentice, if I withstand being the shop bítch for long enough.
PART TIME.
yea,
FUCK OFF
Those “small business” owners:
“Buying my third luxury car is so expensive, why are prices going up? Must be the government”
Unreal. What do they expect you to live off?
This is so crazy to me. I got into a low voltage trade and everything was paid for. I brought minor hand tools, but everything over 100$ was provided. And that is like standard around me (for new guys). Also amazing wages once you’re a well experienced worker. (Talking 5 years or so).
Maybe not welding, or electrician, but pipefitters, plumberd, fire guys, all great trades.
What kind of work is that if I were to go looking? I really enjoyed control wiring for HVAC systems, didn’t enjoy lugging boilers up flights of stairs or brazing compressors in place in Manhattan with 1/2sqft of space to work in…
My work specifically i very company dependant, but data wire, access control, fire, cameras, all the fun “low voltage” stuff. Normally you’ll find Access, Security, and Cameras bundled. Sometimes with Fire, sometimes Data. All depends on who ya look for!
The school I went to, you were basically sold to the employer LOL. They paid for your school when they hired you. You just had to agree to work there for a couple of years.
What trade? I’ve heard of that happening to auto techs
That’s the one
lost Italian?
uh
Sorry, it’s just that in Italy it’s the exact, same thing
I wasn’t aware, that truly blows…
I wonder what generation that kind of attitude will end at. There’s nothing to gain by not even letting people get their foot in the door
Most trade jobs don’t pay enough. As an auto tech The offerings are not good, because most dealers keep most of the profits. Nurses are getting screwed left and right too. I tried switching over to being a truck driver and they actually pay less now than they used to, this is after the supposed shortage and I was out 14hrs a day.
??? How can they have a shortage of workers, but try to justify paying people less???
I swear to fucking god, the mental gymnastics these fuckers do is phenomenal
I’m a former auto tech who got into sales, after seeing my complete moron coworkers who knew nothing about their jobs and wrote bad checks that I was supposed to cash, making twice as much money as me.
Or in my case: “cool no one wants to pay me, I guess I’m taking the $1000 out of savings and starting my own businesses.” It’s way more stress, but I’m making enough money that I can think about buying a house and retiring before I die.
Waiting for Lemmy anti-capitalists in 3… 2…
He started a business with a grand and got lucky. How many people wouldn’t be successful with that grand? How many people don’t even have that money to spare?
Skill shortage probably comes the same way as bankruptcy: gradually, then suddenly. We are probably in the slowly running out of tradesmen phase of the craftocalypse.
Lemme explain why that is: When I got into construction, a construction company was an owner/salesman and four guys who did everything from digging the foundation to putting in the last cabinet screw. When the housing boom happened, everyone learned only one part of the process and none of the rest. Capitalism stepped in and said “we need to sell products with the least amount of skill to install them!” and we got shit like wire closet shelving with sheetrock anchors instead of installers who know what a stud is and how to find one. I have to do every trade now, and I also have to deal with guys who needed a job so they ran to Home Depot and bought some tools and are calling themselves handymen without any experience and they’re fucking up everything right and left because they don’t know even the most basic physics concepts. One of them grew and sold weed all his life and now he’s out of business because of legalization. He has no other option but to be a laborer and he’s not smart enough to understand the job he’s doing. Another was a pro water sports guy and he is actually destroying the things he is hired to work on and I am having to redo all of it. He ran plumbing in a house with no P-traps and stunk the house up with sewer gas ffs.
DEY TERK ER JERBS!
Things are built to spec. Everybody wants that 4500sf house but most people don’t know what quality looks like. When I was house shopping, the new construction homes homes already made me very disappointed and leary. I eventually bought an older home with a Stablok panel and felt better about that. 😂 Swapped the panel out after close, I’m not nuts.
My house had a Bulldog panel with the original 1960s inspection sticker still attached to it. Swapped it for a modern 200 amp panel when I had my solar panels installed.
It’s hard to buy a new house in my area… They’re so expensive, and the quality just isn’t there.
Leery is a synonym of wary. Leary is an angry man named Dennis that we thought was funny for a year or two.
Also a tenured Harvard psychologist turned spiritual guru through drug experimentation.
RIP Timothy Leary.
And apart from that, he’ll be so kind, and consenting to blow your mind
I doubled up on homes too. \o/