Funny aside, ziq hates me :D

  • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    This is “theory” that I only ever see vaushites sharing going “hmmm interesting”

    Do you want to actually change the existing order? What we have now is violent and authoritarian, replacing it will also be violent and authoritarian.

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      1 year ago

      Even people that watch vaush and get their leftist theory from Youtube probably think parts of the first few paragraphs of this article are bogus. You’d literally get a more factual description of history from your average high school history class.

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      Then you’ll end up with a violent and authoritarian society, so nothing has ultimately changed.

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            Your enemies are also violent authoritarians, how do you propose that a nonviolent nonauthoritarian revolution protect what gains it has and resist organized violence without some level of “authoritarianism” literally every example of revolutions (anarchists and otherwise) have this feature, or they fail.

            I don’t consider needing to make a unified front nearly as authoritarian as the everyday violence under capitalism.

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                You seem to have a lot of faith in manifesting your imagination into reality. I suggest joining an organization and putting in some work, because that’s how literally anything in reality get changed.

                I organize with anarchists and most of them would get called tankies by you online anarchists lmao

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                  I organize with anarchists and most of them would get called tankies by you online anarchists lmao

                  This is what I say all the time around here. I really don’t get all this hatred agains commies.

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                    I will say I do get annoyed at mls ranting about anarchists in a vacuum for the exact reason, and that’s honestly why I gravitated to hexbear. There’s plenty we agree on, and a lot that everyone should learn from history. Trying to make some sort of us vs them thing is wrecker behavior.

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                  You seem to have a lot of faith in manifesting your imagination into reality. I suggest joining an organization and putting in some work, because that’s how literally anything in reality get changed.

                  I suggest you look at my body of work before suggesting to me to do more work.

                  I organize with anarchists and most of them would get called tankies by you online anarchists lmao

                  Y’all have a very western/USA-centric pespective of anarchists and it shows.

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                    Are you in any organizations?

                    Y’all have a very western/USA-centric pespective of anarchists and it shows.

                    Can you elaborate? Most anarchists (not all) I’ve run into have been in the US, but I was saying they would get called tankies by your standards. Most of the older ones in particular.

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                  Anarchist who frequently is called a tankie online, but have yet to be called so in person checking in.

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                  You seem to have a lot of faith in manifesting your imagination into reality

                  Says the tankie to the anarchist, both living in delusion of practical reality.

                  Your cruel maskless authoritarianism will make an example to the world of what not to do. Over and over again people like you are revealed to want one thing. Control without check. It’s why you’re scared of capitalism. You actually have to be worth a damn to compete in a market, but when you embrace authoritarian ideals all you need are friends and guns.

                  The last two decades of American stagnation in terms of wages and take home pay are largely thanks to the repressive policies of overseas authoritarian “socialists” who justify their repression with the same ideals you do. They suppress their people’s income to make their manufacturing competitive and undermine American labor in the process.

                  And American tolerance for their bullshit thanks to our naive idea that we are invincible and these countries will “come around”.

                  I’d love to come back in a decade to see how this all pans out for you, but you’ll probably be parroting the exact same narrative despite continued evidence that a mixed market economy with strong unions is the best structure for society we have today.