I would much rather live under modern capitalism than feudalism. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still awful, but a different kind of awful. I like not being the property of the local landowner, even if I do have to spend most of my money each week on rent. Capitalism is a “better” system than those it replaced, our job as socialists is to replace capitalism with a better system, but we don’t do that by pretending capitalism is just all pain and suffering all the time.
I don’t even know where to begin with how ignorant of a take this is. You think the worst of capitalism is paying for rent? How about the homeless people whose tents get bulldozed? You think this is all about how you personally experience capitalism, is that it? We don’t need to give capitalism credit in order to replace it with something better, that’s an asinine position to have. If you are a colonized person trying to liberate from a settler occupier would you say, “Well it’s better under the settler than it was before, but our job is to replace it by ousting them”???
Did I say it was the worst? No. I’m not unaware of how fucked up a system it is, saying “two things are bad” doesn’t mean “so one is fine and we shouldn’t complain ever.”
We don’t defeat capitalism by pretending it is something it isn’t is my main point.
You implied that’s the worst aspect of it you could come up with in comparing it to feudalism, claiming that it’s a better system.
We don’t defeat capitalism by pretending it is something it isn’t is my main point.
And who exactly is pretending it’s something it isn’t? Vaguely claiming it’s a better system than in the past is being misleading about what it is, if anything. What benefit is there in this insistence on giving it credit? That’s not identifying what its mechanisms are and how to approach working toward better in a dialectical way. That’s walking backward on the importance of pointing out why what we want is better than what is already there. Why would you cede ground to the capitalists and their rhetoric of a superior system? It makes no sense.
There’s no “ceding ground” being done here. There’s nothing “dialectical” about refusing to observe the reality of capitalism, it’s utility as well as its treacherous inevitable failure. If you don’t recognise what people see in it, in an honest way, you make it harder for yourself to critique it.
Capitalism is, in my opinion, an inevitable stage of history. Until we see how some other similar cultures’ socio-economics develop in the galaxy we can’t know this for sure.
I would much rather live under modern capitalism than feudalism. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still awful, but a different kind of awful. I like not being the property of the local landowner, even if I do have to spend most of my money each week on rent. Capitalism is a “better” system than those it replaced, our job as socialists is to replace capitalism with a better system, but we don’t do that by pretending capitalism is just all pain and suffering all the time.
I don’t even know where to begin with how ignorant of a take this is. You think the worst of capitalism is paying for rent? How about the homeless people whose tents get bulldozed? You think this is all about how you personally experience capitalism, is that it? We don’t need to give capitalism credit in order to replace it with something better, that’s an asinine position to have. If you are a colonized person trying to liberate from a settler occupier would you say, “Well it’s better under the settler than it was before, but our job is to replace it by ousting them”???
Did I say it was the worst? No. I’m not unaware of how fucked up a system it is, saying “two things are bad” doesn’t mean “so one is fine and we shouldn’t complain ever.”
We don’t defeat capitalism by pretending it is something it isn’t is my main point.
You implied that’s the worst aspect of it you could come up with in comparing it to feudalism, claiming that it’s a better system.
And who exactly is pretending it’s something it isn’t? Vaguely claiming it’s a better system than in the past is being misleading about what it is, if anything. What benefit is there in this insistence on giving it credit? That’s not identifying what its mechanisms are and how to approach working toward better in a dialectical way. That’s walking backward on the importance of pointing out why what we want is better than what is already there. Why would you cede ground to the capitalists and their rhetoric of a superior system? It makes no sense.
There’s no “ceding ground” being done here. There’s nothing “dialectical” about refusing to observe the reality of capitalism, it’s utility as well as its treacherous inevitable failure. If you don’t recognise what people see in it, in an honest way, you make it harder for yourself to critique it.
Capitalism is, in my opinion, an inevitable stage of history. Until we see how some other similar cultures’ socio-economics develop in the galaxy we can’t know this for sure.