• soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
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    1 year ago

    It’s their independence day today b.t.w.(, 200 and one year since 1822).

    I’m christian and i’m a communist, clearly in favor of liberation theology, and it hurts that you’re right.
    It doesn’t make sense, but the Church supports the poors in words and ~not in deeds, perhaps because a lot of communists were anti-clerical, but still, you’re right.

    St Augustine of Hippo’s epitaph is :

    What makes the heart of a christian heavy ?
    That s·he is a pilgrim, and longeth for h·is·er own country.

    That’s my words, and those of millions/billions before me.
    Far-right christians supporters would probably say that societal (pseudo-)problems are more important than socio-economic ones, and that the inhabitants of communist countries are asking for our help to free them.
    But if i ever stumble upon a christian supporter of capitalist political parties, i hope that they’d confirm to me that our vision of the paradise/‘city of God’ on Earth is mostly the same. Christianity is fundamentally compatible with utopian socialism. And if that’s the case, then we only need to produce an effective counter-propaganda to make them realise the usual lies about authoritarianism, the efficiency of free market with its external negativities, the steal of ‘lucrative properties’/‘passive income’/‘capital’s revenues’, etc. Longing for a better world is half the work of being a communist, and western societies don’t even have a long-term vision to attain this utopia.

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      1 year ago

      Okay, I’m a Brazilian atheis but let me give u some trivia about Brazilian catholic church and the liberation theology.

      The Brazilian catholic church backed the military coup in Brazil in 1964 but a lot of their members were actually left wing and a lot were communists. One of the most famous was the bishop Dom Helder Camara. He once said something like “if I give bread to the poor they call me saint, if I ask why they don’t have bread they call me communist”.

      The first UNE(National students union) congress after they were banned was held in a church’s basement and was heavily supported by local priests. UNE was banned because it was heavily dominated by a lot of communist parties and tendencies as well as other left wing parties. Most of the best, and worst, left wing politicians we have were in UNE in the 70s and 80s.

      That being said, this monument is easily the most recognizable we have right now so I totally understand the choice.