• hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
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    The history around Gaza and Israel is long and super complicated. The “they hit me first” gets really fucking dumb after like 10 rounds. That’s why most people in the west don’t support the war, they support leaving people alone. Either the gazans or the Israelites.

    War is the ultimate singularity. It’s a black hole that sucks up everyone and everything and there’s literally no positive to it. So if you have a say in it, the only way to cause less tragedy is to stop it.

    On that note, fuck the Hamas for attacking Israel at the festival, and fuck Israel for escalating this into another war.

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        Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. It wasn’t “invented” by Israel. And Israel didn’t fund them, but it’s true that Bibi let Qatar money reach Hamas when he could’ve blocked it.
        The belief among some of the ones who supported that, was that better conditions of life in Gaza would prevent them from going to another war - An article about it from 2015

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          Mhhh yes which is why israel systematically blocks aid from entering Gaza and the humanitarian catastrophe and restrictions on aid only got worse over the years. Surely israel tried to help Gaza by instead of letting in food, give money to Hamas. this makes perfect sense now.

          NPR is straight up Zionist propaganda.

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            Hamas was the government of Gaza. You couldn’t get anything in there without it getting through Hamas anyway.
            They sure managed to get a lot of weapons and rockets in there, and enough building materials for massive underground tunnels.

            And your dear Al-Jazeera has an article from 2017 that says Qatari money actually did help Gaza Analysts: Qatar supports Gaza not Hamas
            Are they also Zionist propaganda now?

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              They sure managed to get a lot of weapons and rockets in there, and enough building materials for massive underground tunnels.

              Yes which why it is obvious the blockade on Gaza was only using the blocking of “smuggled weapons” as an excuse to starve civilians.

              You are destroying your own argument.

              Your Qatar link is irrelevant. Of course Qatar supports Gaza. However Netanyahu asked Qatar to give cash to Hamas.

          • FreddyDunningKruger@lemmy.ml
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            7 months ago

            Well goddammit, we’ve got a genuine freedom fighter here in our midst, waging war against the (wink wink nudge nudge) ZIONISTS. Are you a member of the legendary 104th Battalion, the Keyboard Snipers? Or are you part of that new 88th Battalion, the Fighting Dogwhistle Luftwaffles, deploying out of your parents basement?

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      7 months ago

      Circle of hatred.

      No matter if it is about a relationship, two political parties or countries. You can only brake out of it,if you commit to not go for the “revenge”.