• Mikufan@ani.social
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    7 months ago

    Sources for these claims are absolutely necessary.

    And the hospital thing is proven to be false.

    And im not going to argue any further with you as you are obviously deep in your terrorism support hole, im not going to get you out of this.

    Keep yourself safe and maybe speak with the people that actually have been there.

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          I don’t. The reality is in the news every single day. There is a reason why Israel is spending millions on a disinformation campaign and still losing the PR war, and it’s not a sudden resurgence of antisemitism. Israel is very quickly becoming a pariah nation. Even US support is starting to crack.

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            7 months ago

            So you claim i cant prove my claims, then i ask you what you want prove about and then you suddenly don’t want prove because you only want to read headlines of click bait sites and propaganda… Sounds like you are afraid of the proof that you are wrong and feed propaganda.

            And the USA support will get stronger after the election regardless of who wins because usa is dependent on the Israeli intelligence services and companies.

            Oh and its not a sudden surge in antisemitism, this antisemitism was around all the time and now the antisemitics (like you apparently) feel right because there is more “truth” for them to use against Israel and Jewish people.

            The propaganda game of Hamas is pretty good yes.

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              I didn’t claim you can’t prove your claims, I just said your claims are bullshit. The truth is easy to find, so I leave that to those that are interested.

              There is nothing worthwhile being done by Israeli companies that can’t be done elsewhere. We’re the US to abandon Israel, there would be a bit of pain in the transition, but it wouldn’t last long. In my long infosec career, I found Israeli tech companies to be far better at marketing than providing solid technology.

              So I’m apparently antisemitic now? I guess I should be shocked and hurt by that accusation, except that Zionist apologists have made it into a bad joke. The hilarious thing is that it’s the antisemitics in the US backing Israel, and the majority of American Jews are supporting a ceasefire. The Evangelicals need the Jews to take back all of Israel then die in fire so Jesus can come back. That’s your base of “support” in the US. That and the politicians bribed by AIPAC.

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                Again you you just discredit me, saying that what i say is “not real because it doesn’t support my narrative” then you say Israel doesn’t provide anything. Wich is again absolutely idiotic, the services they provide alone are extremely valuable and cannot be done by other. Amd then you claim i said you are antisemitic when i clearly marked it as a question and that you show very obvious tendencys.

                And the last claim about religion you make is the uttermost bullish bs i can imagine. Thats at worst a few idiots thinking this, way less than flatearth and similar.

                And Zionism doesn’t need an apology, the state Israel is there and has to exist. However i agree that Israeli government is prone to overuse the world from time to time.

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                  You’re a clown and I’m treating you like one. I don’t actually think the US will abandon Israel, and my actual claim was that support was cracking. We’ll keep supporting Israel in a general way, but it won’t be the unconditional kowtowing Israel has become used to.

                  I never said that Israel doesn’t provide anything, but tech moves way too fast for any country to be irreplaceable. Israel simply doesn’t have enough population to maintain it’s edge without US backing. There is nothing that Israel does that can’t be done elsewhere.

                  No country has to exist or has a right to exist. People have a right to exist. Ethno States are a bad idea, and Israel shows exactly why.

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                    7 months ago

                    The ethnostate Israel where jews Muslims and Christians live peacefully together… 🤡

                    Have you been to Israel? Have you been to Palestinia? I have been.

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      7 months ago

      Look at any news source. Literally any of them. Israel has repeatedly attached Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure.

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        No. This is false. This is “statement from the Palestinian authorities” put in articles by aljazeera and they are seen as “credible source” by the people wanting to have the hottest news for clicks. Its by definition fake news. But a little more complex than the fake news the average muricalander is used to.

        You Just repeat terrorist propaganda.

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          Lmao. So Israel didn’t have a general give a CNN news crew a tour of a hospital basement after fighting through that hospital?

          This shit is freely available on the web. It’s not obscure, it’s not behind paywalls, and it’s 100% a war crime.

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            Ok please show me where Geneva conventions say you aren’t allowed to show war reporters places you fraught at? Cause to my knowledge they just proved that the hospital wasn’t destroyed and that there where tunnels below as claimed, justifying the raid.